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Apart from all the unarmed cowards on level 0, of course.

As to body counts- isn't it Resurection that racks up more deaths than Terminator?

I know where BS is coming from there Jimster- the question is which is more damaging to kids, a film that shows a number of deaths in a horrible way, or a weekly series in which lots of guns and hardware are used, but no one actually dies? Isn't it worse to let kids thing that you can play with that kind of stuff without killing people?

"isn't it Resurection that racks up more deaths than Terminator"

I believe the 'official' record holder is 'Hot Shots: Parte Deux!'

B

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The actual death effect is simply a more advanced version of the Remembrance one... you can see the skelington and everything.

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I'm not, I found the series a bit boring and thought it was a mistake jumping into the big story arc straight away.

Yes, B, I was just pointing out that Doctor Who is a very blood-thirsty show. People die, rather than just getting knocked out.

It's just an oft quoted (and therefore probably wrong) thing that more people die in Resurection of the Daleks than are killed in Terminator.

It's a while since I've seen Terminator, but I only recall half a dozen people being killed.

B

Whether it's true or not Ressurection does have a ridiculous body count for a family show.

It does.

The whole crew of the space station, one way or another, all the escaping prisoners, the poor bloke that was using his metal detector on the beach, all of the soldiers. You can see why Tegan was feeling a bit queasy at the end.

Are you thinking of Terminator 2, B? I recall lots of bystanders getting mowed down in Terminator.

Exactly my point in a nutshell, Kerr.

Violence without *consequence* is to my mind far more dangerous and warping then any amount of kano syrup and red die a la Evil Dead.

Michael Grade in "Doctor Who Triumph" Shocker!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2005/06/21/20120.shtml


Does this mean he's not our arch-nemesis any more?

I don't recall seeing those unarmed cowards killed

We *heard* them being exterminated, whilst watching Lynda's reaction, then she turned the sound down and reported that they were all dead.

Testing:

Its a TV show. Its not real. Daleks, Sea Devils, Cybermen, Yeti and mind invading seaweed were killing dozens in the 60's Doctor Who when I was 10 and I dont recall anyone anywhere giving a toss. Why now?

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Because the moral majority need a scapegoat when little Jimmy decides to lamp a little old lady because he thinks she's an evil android. It's a lot easier to blame TV, computer games, music, etc. than it is to stop for a minute and think "it's entirely possible that Jimmy might have been mentally ill already."

Anyway, I have a question: many, many years ago Doctor Who Magazine used to do a strip that if I remember correctly featured two blokes who used to watch Dr. Who all the time while affectionately taking the p!ss... one strip had a tape they'd found which contained 'unused' story ideas including DEF II: The Daleks, A Tack of the Cybermen, Shadas (featuring Hank Marvin the Paranoid Humanoid), etc, etc... can anyone remember what the strip was called as it's been bugging me on and off for years.

"Because the moral majority need a scapegoat"

Ahhhhhhhhh, yes. The "Modern" world is getting very good at that isnt it? So fantastical violence ala the "Daleks" is frowned on, but real car bombs in Iraq is ok for the 6 o'clock news? Makes you wonder, dunnit?

Sorry, I misunderstood the point about 'showing' deaths. You meant literally on-screen, rather than taking palce but happening of camera.

I tell you what would have been a nice touch: if the doctor had gone through all the past doctors - from Hartnell to Baker - during the regeneration. That would've have been a nice nod to the actors who played the doc in the past and also a nice way to celebrate the return of the series.

What's everyone's first impression of the new doc based on what we've seen so far? Me and m'lady agree that it looks like he could be a goodie - maybe another quirky doctor.

Shurely shome mishtake...Hartnell to Mccoy.

"Shurely shome mishtake...Hartnell to Mccoy."

Actually Hartnell to McGann. Apart from that I don't think it would have been a good idea since 1) it has never happened in a regeneration before and 2) it would have confused those new viewers young & old who don't know the programme's history.

Er, a friend just asked me this in the pub at lunchtime, and I couldn't think of a good answer, maybe you lot can help...

If the Time Lords all died in the Time War, why didn't they regenerate?

I'm sure there must be a good answer, it just escaped me at the time...


DL

Time Lords aren't immortal. I think the suggestion is they were killed outright - blown up or caught in the destruction of Gallifrey or something.

A Time Lord can recover from a gunshot, a moral wound or similar problems, but they can't reassemble themselves if they're blown to smithereens.

Moral wound?

Is that similar to an immoral wound?