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Keseral - lost... Posted Jun 12, 2005
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/breakfast/4565339.stm
for John Barrowman interview....
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Mrs Zen Posted Jun 12, 2005
Oh, Mina, you so *should* have kept watching?
>> Am I the only one hoping for Captain Jack to die a slow, painful death?
No! I want him oiled and brought to my tent! He's great eye candy, and a real excuse for stuff that takes the p**s out of gun-fest SF! Plus - as GB said - a cute butt! Thank you RTD.
>> Big Brother is mind numbing dross for the plebs and the Weakest Link makes me physically sick
But that's the bloody POINT! We are becoming more and more gladatorial, sucking people into reality tv, and screwing up their
psyches. I won't rant about it, but there is some very very disturbing stuff consumed in the name of entertainment. We are rats in a trap, pressing the buttons and pleasuring ourselves to death. It isn't even that complicated a point to make, rather trite in its own way - but it does say scarily unpleasant truths about us. I was glad to see RTD make it so blatantly. Shame it seems to have been too blatant for some.
>> "Captain Jack's hidden weapon"
>> No wonder he walked like John Wayne
I loved the power of the Dr saying 'no' to the either/or proposal. Shame he backed down and explained himself really, the ambiguity was much stronger.
Ben
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Xanatic Posted Jun 12, 2005
Bread and circuses, that's what democracy gets you. But the fact they used gameshows in existence made it seem rather stupid. I would have preferred something new, like Rollerball or so.
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Mrs Zen Posted Jun 12, 2005
When did Rollerball come out? The mid-70s?
The point is that the reality TV and the game shows and indeed the makeover shows *are* destructive and damaging, and we do degrade ourselves by watching them.
In the 19th C religion was the opium of the people. These days it's tv. It numbs our pain. It's addictive. It stupefies us. It keeps us from hearing the sounds of our own thoughts.
Oh. Bother. I said I wouldn't do this particular rant and I have. Well, a bite-sized version of it anyway.
But the point remains that RTD decided to show us ourselves in our own terms. Cool dude that man.
Ben
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Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired Posted Jun 12, 2005
Traveller in Time without a clue
"I think they did a great job in showing the 'reality' shows! I have seen glimpses of the actual shows, never bothered to try and figure out what they are about.
There was just enough information to get an idea how they worked/ will work.
I vote for 'Rose' as beeing the 'Bad Wolf' character
Did she actually ever deliver the collected money from the first episode?"
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PollyandCass Posted Jun 12, 2005
Ben we think we love you, in quite a powerful and nonsexual way(which is unusual for us). Thou art a soothsayer and veritas is the word thou spake!
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jun 13, 2005
>Nothing is more scary than the mind numbing, nonsensical vitrifying crap that these programmes signify.<
Ben's already said it, but you think maybe that was the point? Jeez, talk about missing the point...
Just brilliant. The turning of the script on a knife edge from uneasy humour to full out extraganza justifies the rest of RTD's salary in one go.
Best moment for me was undoubtedly;
"But you have no weapons, no defences, no strategems."
"Yeah, and doesn't that just scare you to death?"
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jun 13, 2005
Whoever it was that wanted odds on a Viz Doctor Who piss-take, I don't think you'll get very long odds- DW was on the cover of Viz last week
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jun 13, 2005
Right then. That was brilliant. I didn't enjoy it properly the first time, due to being a lot tired and a bit pissed, but on re-watching. .
Is that the first time this series we've seen the Doctor be violent towards a human?
The Doctor's committed genocide before, he tried it with the Daleks (at the behest of the Timelords), and he succeeded with the Vervoids.
"They survived through me". I've been racking my brains trying to identify that voice. I've heard it before, and was anyone else sad enough to know that Rose was on a Dalek ship before we saw Daleks, just because of that sound effect?
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Jun 13, 2005
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*Puts hand up*
Who else stood up and said "Wow! They've got the old sound effects!" and got strange looks from the non-Whogeeks in the room?
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jun 13, 2005
Now that's interesting.
Kerr, whose ness outshines mine by several miles thinks thats an 'old' voice, not just the updating of Davros' whinging tones, which is what everyone else is assuming...
For what it';s worth, my thoughts are in the spolier thread.
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jun 13, 2005
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Researcher U1025853 Posted Jun 13, 2005
I missed confidential on Saturday and thought never mind, I'll watch Sundays. Shame I never realised that Sundays and the Friday repeat is half the length of Saturdays.
If people are transmatted to a separate place, how come the emotional pile of dust after they have gone? Or are they going to a very dusty place?
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Jun 13, 2005
Maybe the transmat (they called it a transmat not a teleporter! Woo!) leaves behind all the dead skin and dandruff...
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Lady in a tree Posted Jun 13, 2005
>>Maybe the transmat (they called it a transmat not a teleporter! Woo!) leaves behind all the dead skin and dandruff...<<
Oh boy - I want one! Gimme gimme...
Watched the confidential again to see if they still blur Capt. Jack's buttocks yup
[thinks] Why are all the gorgeous ones gay?
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Michael Posted Jun 13, 2005
I thought it was good once they escaped, though didn't get why Lynda (with a y) explained the gameshows saying things like call my bluff with guns. Surely she should expect the doctor to know that they had guns?
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- 2521: Keseral - lost... (Jun 12, 2005)
- 2522: Mrs Zen (Jun 12, 2005)
- 2523: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Jun 12, 2005)
- 2524: Xanatic (Jun 12, 2005)
- 2525: Mrs Zen (Jun 12, 2005)
- 2526: Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired (Jun 12, 2005)
- 2527: PollyandCass (Jun 12, 2005)
- 2528: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2529: Mrs Zen (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2530: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2531: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2532: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2533: Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2534: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2535: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2536: Researcher U1025853 (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2537: Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2538: Researcher U1025853 (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2539: Lady in a tree (Jun 13, 2005)
- 2540: Michael (Jun 13, 2005)
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