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Bright Blue Shorts Posted Dec 26, 2008
Good work Gif ... I had to wait until TD/DT explained it all. Fairly comfortable with it.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Dec 27, 2008
I twigged when he pulled out the stethoscope.
Definitely a better story.
I'm looking forward to the specials now.
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Bright Blue Shorts Posted Dec 27, 2008
"I twigged when he pulled out the stethoscope."
How did you twig it from that? All it told me was that TD/DT was checking whether TND/DM had two hearts. But that didn't give me any better idea whether he was TND or not ...
I liked the first half of the story, mainly when we were trying to decipher who TND/DM was; but found the later stages a little cluttered and dark.
Especially liked the TND/DM's sonic screwdriver and TARDIS!
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Dec 27, 2008
Well if he only had one not two he was human.
If he was human I started mentally, checking-off who he might be - I didn't think ho! He's Jackson Lake, but I began entertaining the possibility. By the time The Dr sat him down in the barn, with that grim look on his face I could guess what was coming.
I didn't mean I solved it just that was when I 'twigged' to the clue I was being given and began thinking along the right lines.
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Bright Blue Shorts Posted Dec 27, 2008
At the time I couldn't quite nail what I found a little disappointing about this episode, but I think primarily that the Cybermen are almost incidental to the whole story. It could have been any Dr Who monster or visiting alien. In other stories they have seemed unstoppable, in this they seemed weak relying on others to help them. They didn't just arrive and start taking over the place.
That said, I think the disappointment is much more a criticism of the trailers. Had I not expected Cybermen, I doubt I would have had such heady expectations.
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Xanatic Posted Dec 28, 2008
I liked the beginning of the story, but then that the woman was betrayed seemed too simple. I would have liked to see her try to create some kind of feminist revolution using the cybermen. The giant cyberman just seemed too saturday morning cartoon-ish.
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Mister Matty Posted Dec 28, 2008
>I liked the beginning of the story, but then that the woman was betrayed seemed too simple. I would have liked to see her try to create some kind of feminist revolution using the cybermen.
I was hoping that she'd stay-on as the leader of the cybermen. This would both distinguish them from the daleks (to whom they've always seemed too similar) and create a nice twist, the "cybermen" being lead by an all-powerful female. Was not to be, alas. I'd think RTD didn't want to mess with the accepted mythology too much but the "Cybusmen" are distinct from the "proper" cybermen anyway.
>The giant cyberman just seemed too saturday morning cartoon-ish.
It felt like something typical of a Christmas Special which is why I don't think it worked; up until then "The Next Doctor" had felt more like a standard (and above-average) Doctor Who story. The spectacle of Stay-Puft Cyberman stomping around London felt tagged-on and out of chime with the rest of the story.
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Bright Blue Shorts Posted Dec 28, 2008
Ahh yes ... I was thinking Ghostbusters II when the Statue of Liberty arises ... all on the same lines ...
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Giford Posted Jan 5, 2009
For me, it was Abadon from Torchwood Season One. Had to check to make sure that wasn't another RTD script.
Gif
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NPY Posted Feb 22, 2009
That was a good Ghostbusters!!! The CyberKing was a bit naff though. Very 1950s robot.
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Spoilers for Christmas 2008 Special
- 81: Bright Blue Shorts (Dec 26, 2008)
- 82: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (Dec 27, 2008)
- 83: Bright Blue Shorts (Dec 27, 2008)
- 84: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (Dec 27, 2008)
- 85: Bright Blue Shorts (Dec 27, 2008)
- 86: Xanatic (Dec 28, 2008)
- 87: Mister Matty (Dec 28, 2008)
- 88: IctoanAWEWawi (Dec 28, 2008)
- 89: Bright Blue Shorts (Dec 28, 2008)
- 90: Giford (Jan 5, 2009)
- 91: NPY (Feb 22, 2009)
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