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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 12, 2009
I had a distant aunt (or something) born on the 29th of Feb. Although they weren't close, my mother always sent her a card when it actually was a leap year (saying that she only got 'real' birthday cards then). I suppose it does make your birthday easy to remember if you're a 29/2-er...
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Jimcracker7[magiclink.rip gone altogether. im back.in my home from home. Posted Oct 12, 2009
i thought it was the main quirk in the birthdays, it would be bad for children, with parents, like my mate, he said his mother, as he dindt know his father, would used the fact, not to get a pressie, when he was young.
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jim
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Jimcracker7[magiclink.rip gone altogether. im back.in my home from home. Posted Oct 12, 2009
nearly forgot
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it would be worth finding out,how many are born on the feb 29th,comapered to the ones on normal years, ie the percentage.
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jim
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Elentari Posted Oct 12, 2009
I'll definitely include leap year birthdays, good point!
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 13, 2009
It's looking good !
Note that, for St Catherine's day, it's just unmarried women of 25.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Catherine's_Day (see 'France')
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 14, 2009
Hi again
When you mention Greece (for the name days) perhaps you'd like to link to this A133066 which in fact mentions that many Greeks celebrate their (Saint) name days more their their birthdays (mentioned under religion)
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toybox Posted Oct 14, 2009
Each city also has a saint protector, which is celebrated as well on their nameday.
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Jimcracker7[magiclink.rip gone altogether. im back.in my home from home. Posted Oct 14, 2009
i have at the back of my mind to coming of age things, i will look into when i go to the cyber later today.
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one connected with africa and one the red indians.and boys coming of age.
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you may not want to add this, but its a fact that in the red indian tribes,in the past, if a child is not perfect, the child was not allowed to live, jim
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Jimcracker7[magiclink.rip gone altogether. im back.in my home from home. Posted Oct 15, 2009
here is something you might want to look more into.
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how in the old days, children, when they reached their 4th birthday, or even younger, had to work, in the textile, coalmines, and up the chimneys. jim
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 15, 2009
A good point Jim, and indeed there are young children in many countries who continue to work in slave-like conditions. I'm not so sure it was/is at a set age though, and probably people in this appalling condition didn't/don't have much time for celebrating birthdays.
As this specific entry focusses on birthdays, I'm not sure it's the best place for this information. But perhaps it will give somebody an idea of writing a short history of child labour in the UK.
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Jimcracker7[magiclink.rip gone altogether. im back.in my home from home. Posted Oct 15, 2009
hi b eagle
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i have been watching the doley doc, on the cocoa farms, children weilding machetts as young as 5, the cuts on each where scarey.
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thats what twigged my mind on the last message.
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there is also the cheldren as yound as 5 that are being taught to shoot rifles, and kill. jim
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BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows Posted Oct 15, 2009
Hi Elentari,
Nice Entry
As a famil6y, we often host students from overseas, including Japan. One year, the students gave us a present of a booklet they'd made in class about Japanese culture. (I used this as a basis for my Entry on Hina-Matsuri A9785064).
Here is what they said about birthdays in Japan:
"Shichi-go-san literally means seven, five and three. This celebration is held on November 15th. This ritual is held as a celebration for children who have reached the ages of seven, five and three years. Family members hold this celebration by dressing btheir 7, 5 and 3 year-old children in their best clothes.
For three-year-old girls, the day is also celebrated as the day they wear kimonos with sashes for the first time. For 5-year-old boys, it's the day when they can wear hakama, a kind of divided skirt.
For seven-year-old boys and girls , it's considered the last important event of their childhood. On this day, parents and grandparents go to visit shrines and visit relatives."
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 15, 2009
Me again
The shrines visited are Shinto shrines. Shintoism is explained here A19773624 'Japanese History and Culture'
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You can call me TC Posted Oct 15, 2009
That comment of Jim's about 4th birthdays reminds me that the fifth birthday used to be the day a small boy was "trousered". I have a lovely picture of my father, who turned 5 in 1924, when he was put in shorts for the first time.
Up until that age, small children - boys and girls - all wore dresses. This probably for ease of changing nappies, or potty training, and also possibly because no seamstress would dream of tackling trousers that small. Also maybe because they couldn't imagine making trousers of any material other than woollen flannel, which would be too rough and inflexible for a child. (This last is entirely speculation on my part)
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 15, 2009
>>>>small children - boys and girls - all wore dresses. This probably for ease of changing nappies, or potty training
I was surprised to learn of the dresses.
In the Far East (in China at least in the 1970s), some toddlers didn't wear underwear. Boys had a kind of crutchless pair of shorts and longish teeshirt. Presumably this helped with 'potty training'. In a crouched position, the children were appropriately "unclothed".
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