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Phoenician Trader Posted Oct 1, 2009
I don't mind it being written as it is. Most of the guide pretends to be world inclusive but it nearly always is oriented around the interests of the researcher who researched it (which is as it should be).
Anyway I suspect birthday traditions change even within a country and over decades. I vote for a blatently out of date by the time it is published piece.
Anyway, the Queen will send messages to people turning 100 anywhere in the Commonwealth I suspect. She certainly does in Ausrtalia.
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Sho - employed again! Posted Oct 4, 2009
Nothing to add really except that I think mention of the Queen should reference that she's the British Queen.
In Germany birthdays for adults seem to be more significant than in other countries I've been to. Certainly even the older people in my office (late 30s and onwards) are grumpy as anything if they can't take a day off on their birthday.
We also adhere to the tradition of the birthday person bringing in cake for the whole office (and we have a little collection for them to get a present - usually a gift certificate)
In all German companies I've worked for I have been given a small bunch of flowers on my birthday. In my current place we get a certain amount to spend at Amazon and they order the present for us.
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Elentari Posted Oct 4, 2009
Sorry I haven't had time to get to this. I'm not ignoring you!
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Elentari Posted Oct 5, 2009
Lil - that Vietnamese birthdays link isn't the one I saw, but is word-for-word the same information. If you've heard the same elsewhere though, I'm inclined to include it - what do you think?
I've made a number of other changes including specifying the Queen is the British Queen. I've also added some of the information you've given me from other countries and some of you have researcher credits now as a result. Thanks very much.
Do you still think that there isn't enough information from outside the UK/the Western world?
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Elentari Posted Oct 5, 2009
I'm going to add in some things from the Japanese link, which is very helpful, thanks. I don't have time now as I'm at w*rk and my lunch is about to be over!
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Sho - employed again! Posted Oct 5, 2009
you can also link to the Dinner for One entry here
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 5, 2009
Did you notice that a new researcher (also with an entry in PR) added to the end of your EGWW thread : F14244679?thread=6844577 ?
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Elentari Posted Oct 6, 2009
I thought I'd linked the Dinner For One entry already. It must have been an external link.
nsbe, thanks for the link. I'll have a look.
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 8, 2009
A few mistakes have slipped in during editing (e.g. "Sometimes the birthday and the name day may be the same, if someone was named for the saint on whose day they were born. The advantage of this is that if you have a calendar, you can tell when a friend's *birthdayday* is, and so don't have to actually remember!"
I'm nto sure of the logic of this. Didn't it say before that you didn't have to remember saint days because they are on the calendar and thus you could wish a happy 'name day' on the basis of a name alone. In the text as stands, you still have to remember that a person was named after the saint on the day he was born. IMHO, the first version (as I remember it but I may have gone ) was better.
Perhaps you prefer no comments while you are polishing this entry?
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Elentari Posted Oct 8, 2009
Not at all, nsbe. Keep the comments coming! I just haven't really got around to editing the more recent bits.
It made sense to me when I changed it. I can't remember what it said before, I'll have to check the Word document when I get home.
Lil - thanks, will do.
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Elentari Posted Oct 11, 2009
I've added in some info from the Japan link and also the Vietnam information.
I'm not sure I agree that it's too focused on certain countries - yes, there is more about some than others, but that's because I have to work with the information I am given and there's little research you can usefully do on this subject, as I have discovered.
The entry mentions birthday traditions etc from the following countries/religions:
Judaism
USA
Germany
UK
Japan
China
Jehovah's Witnesses
Vietnam
Greece/Italy/France (namedays)
Denmark
Mexico
Spain (birthday song)
Australia and New Zealand
Islam
Brazil
Certainly more information would be welcome but it's rather hard to come by.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Oct 11, 2009
It seems balanced enough for me Elentari - it is a Guide entry, not a thesis and you draw away from the risk of boring potential readers by just including the interesting, non-repetitive stuff.
It's looking good!
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Elentari Posted Oct 11, 2009
I added the India stuff too, just forgot to mention it!
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 11, 2009
The researcher is new to h2g2 and has an entry in PR. Perhaps you might consider adding his name to the researchers.
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Elentari Posted Oct 11, 2009
I'm actually adding a bunch of researchers now. I thought I'd just added them when I updated but I forgot (because I don't usually write collaborative entries) that you have to click the 'Set Researchers' box! I also realised that I didn't include that nugget you mentioned about 19 being the age of adulthood in Algeria, so I'll include that too.
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 11, 2009
more a soggy chicken than a gold nugget . I noticed you didn't include the St Catherine stuff Toybox (and then I) mentioned, I'm only drawing your attention to it in case it's an oversight. It doesn't bother me if it doesn't go in.
Have fun
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Not-so-bald-eagle Posted Oct 12, 2009
PS (OK, rather a delayed PS) Here's a source http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01209a.htm for the 'age of reason' (7), Toybox mentioned
and here http://www.raisingkids.co.uk/4_9/pri_dev02.asp the age of reason (non Catholic approach) is 4 to 7.
Again, not pushing things just trying to give a helping hand
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Jimcracker7[magiclink.rip gone altogether. im back.in my home from home. Posted Oct 12, 2009
hi
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hpe im not stepping on any toes.
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i had a mate that died in his 80,s last year.why important.because.
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he was born on 29th feb, a leap year, so he only had a birthday every four years.
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i noticed this wasnt mentioned in the guide entry,
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thought it might be something, the fact that anyone born on feb 29th a birthday every four years.
- jim
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