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Peer Review: A39294813 - Constellations: Telescopium 'the Telescope'

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Gnomon - time to move on

Entry: Constellations: Telescopium 'the Telescope' - A39294813
Author: Gnomon [151] - U151503

Now that Lacerta has been picked, I think it is time for this constellations entry to go into Peer Review. I don't want PR swamped with stars, so I'm putting my ones in one at a time.


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BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows

I've seen this comment on one of the earlier 'Constellations' Entries, but can't recall what the answer was.

Isn't there a better word that one can use for 'inventing' constellations smiley - erm It doesn't look/sound right IMO smiley - 2cents


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Post 3

Gnomon - time to move on

I remember Bel objected to the word "invent", but I think it is the correct word. The stars are there already, but the constellations are purely artificial groupings of them.


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BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows

Yes, I just looked up 'Invent' in my Roget's Thesaurus, and the first word that it directed me to was 'imagine'. I wondered whether 'imagined' might be a better word? smiley - erm Also in the list of words with the same meaning was 'ideate'. I like that better than 'invent' (because, to me, an 'invention' is something that you can create and holds physically). However, I guess 'ideate' is a bit pompous smiley - erm


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Post 5

Gnomon - time to move on

I could use devise or imagine.

In your opinion, can you invent a theory, a mathematical model or an explanation?


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BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows

Well, I guess it's not incorrect smiley - erm, but personally I would 'devise' a theory etc.


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BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows

... but 'devise' doesn't seem to be the correct word for a constellation because, to me, to devise something implies that one can manipulate it smiley - erm.


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Post 8

h5ringer

Postulate?


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Post 9

BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows

I think I would still go with 'imagine' smiley - 2cents


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Post 10

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

I've been using "delineate" - "to trace the outline of"; "to depict in words"; "to draw".

I'll go read the Entry nowsmiley - blush

smiley - run


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Post 11

Gnomon - time to move on

OK, I've changed it from "invented by the French astronomer" to "first imagined by the French astronomer". But I'm not convinced by this, so if anyone has a better suggestion, I'll consider it.


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Post 12

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Are you not convinced by "delineated"?smiley - smiley

smiley - tea
Corona Austrina (twice) = Corona Australis
smiley - tea
postumously = posthumously
smiley - tea
Abbé should be Abbé
smiley - tea
<>
That shouldn't be in the "History" section, it should be in the opening description.
smiley - tea
*NGC 6868* and *epsilon, alpha and zeta Telescopii*, should be in bold tags to match your other constellation components.
smiley - tea
Love the update on Voyager 2 - I was just wondering where that was now, the other day smiley - smiley

Thanks for writing this, Gnomonsmiley - ok

GB
smiley - galaxy


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Post 13

Gnomon - time to move on


A39294813 - Constellations: Telescopium 'the Telescope'

Post 14

Gnomon - time to move on

Thanks, GB. I've rejigged the first section and the History section so that the description of the constellation is in the first bit and the history is in the history section.

I'm unsure whether it should be Corona Austrina or Corona Australis, as both names seem to be used.


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

I see your pointsmiley - doh

http://www.dibonsmith.com/cra_con.htm
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/CrA.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/myspace/constellationguide/corona_australis.shtml
http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/coronaaustralis.htm
= Corona Australis

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/constellations/Corona_Austrina.html
= Corona Austrina

Wiki goes with both...

...but the diagram of the original here: http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/coronaaustralis.htm
shows (quote) <>


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Gnomon - time to move on

I'll go by whatever it says in the Norton Star Atlas, which I'll check when I get home, unless you've a copy to hand.


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aka Bel - A87832164

Another good one, Gnomon. smiley - smiley

I like the 'imagine' instead of 'invent', but then you'll not be surprised by that. smiley - biggrin


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Post 18

Gnomon - time to move on

The Norton's 2000.0 gives it as Corona Australis.smiley - biro


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Deek

With regard to the constellation's originator, I believe that La Caille’s name should be written 'de la' with a space after 'la' and a capital C.

Convention seems to have brought in the capital L and the space being missed. From your text Abbé Nicolas Louis de Lacaille should be:

Abbé Nicolas Louis de la Caille.

When using the surname only, it is 'La Caille'.

Deke


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

smiley - ermI took it to be Nicolas Louis de Lacaille from his SEDS bio:

http://seds.org/messier/xtra/Bios/lacaille.html


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