A Conversation for Forest Hill, London, UK

Writing Workshop: A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 1

endless_cups_of_tea

Entry: Forest Hill, London, UK - A3900953
Author: endless_cups_of_tea - U1495187

Please read and let me know what improvements should be made before entering it into Peer Review. Many thanks to those who commented on it during its life in CWW smiley - smiley You know who you are smiley - smiley


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 2

Danny B

Hi ECOT There generally aren't too many people hanging round the WW, so don't be discouraged if you don't get many replies here (most of the people here will probably be those who helped you out in the CWW thread! :-)). Although, to be honest, I'd say this is good enough to put straight into PR, where you'll get more comments You can put the headings into House Style by using

tags:
Forest Hill's History
For Those Wanting A Little History... (Note capitalisation of headers as well!) You'll probably be asked to remove the oblique reference to MultiMap at the end, but that should be OK, 'cos you can use a direct link: Map There are a few other House Style things I could help you with, if you can face them ;-) (If you put it into PR, you'll get the same comments, so I'm happy to help you fix them here before you move on )


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 3

endless_cups_of_tea

Many thanks for the amendments . Will make them when i get time and will also be happy to hear about other little things that need sorting. Good idea to get it done now so people can focus on the actual entry. It has been fun to write smiley - smiley

I tried putting multimap se23 entry in but the guide ML didn't like. That was the only reason really smiley - smiley

Many thanks again for your help smiley - smiley

Cheers

endless


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 4

Danny B

Couple of little things for now then:

Occasionally, you use bold or capital letters to emphasise words (eg, ...travelling to and fro and put in a little note...) - House Style is italic for this type of emphasis (you might be OK leaving the bus numbers in bold though!)

Where you have names of places in italics (eg, Horniman Museum, it would probably be more appropriate to put these in single quotes: 'Horniman Museum'

You'll need to take out first-person references ("I would have to say that they have done a really good job on it") - you could reword to something like "They seem to have done a really good job on it"

Then, the only other important thing might be to add some H2G2 links (but only to Edited Entries):

A few examples would be:

McDonald's
Pubs
Tube
Buses

There are probably others, if you spend a while playing with the Search engine smiley - smiley


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 5

endless_cups_of_tea

Thanks a lot. Methinks i have a little work to be getting on with here smiley - smiley

Cheers

endless

smiley - smiley


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 6

endless_cups_of_tea

Have made alterations as suggested.

Encountered trouble when inserting links

Current method is

copy link from your message
go to edit entry and highlight bit of text to be highlighted
click on the link button in Guide ML
Paste the link in
Update entry
See report of Error in Guide ML

Only result is to dump links unceremoniously at bottom, or is it minimal stylist chic ?

Anyway, thoughts appreciated smiley - smiley

endless


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 7

Danny B

Right - I think I see the problem...

Ignore the 'click on the link button in Guide ML'. As you're copying and pasting the whole link from my posting, you don't need that. The process should go:

copy link from my message
go to edit entry and highlight bit of text to be highlighted
Paste the link in (*replacing* the word you want to link)
Update entry
Beam happily at working link in Entry (we hope smiley - winkeye)

To use the LINK Guide ML gadget, the process would be:

Copy the Axxxxxx number from my message
go to edit entry and highlight bit of text to be highlighted
click on the link button in Guide ML
Paste the Axxxxxx number in
Update entry
Beam happily at etc.

I hope that makes sense! smiley - ok


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 8

Danny B

Looking good otherwise though smiley - ok

Noticed you'd removed the links you originally had at the end. You didn't have to do that - a lot of Entries have a selection of links at the end. You could do it as a bulleted list:


text1 here
text2 here


It might be nice to link bookcrossing.com as well:

bookcrossing.com


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 9

endless_cups_of_tea

Hey thanks! Especially as soo quick. Have a smiley - ale !

Will amend soonish

Cheers

endless


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 10

Danny B

Good luck! smiley - cheers


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 11

Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge")


This is much improved on earlier versions smiley - smiley

A few more comments....

"Forest Hill is perhaps a little less foresty than when it was given its name, but still has lots of trees which gives it a relaxed feel while all hills have remained intact, although can be levelled out for a short time by a visit to one of its many pubs offering fine refreshments."

I think the first sentance is a bit long and I don't really understand the bit about "levelled out for a short time". Perhaps a full stop after "its name" - that would be a nice snappy hitchikers style opening.

You probably need to explain "SE23". I think most UK researchers will recognise it as a postcode, but those outside won't.

"There were various methods of transport were devised to reach it but it was only really with the advent of the railway that it became inhabited."

Not sure inhabited is the right word. Presumably it was inhabited but rural.

"Stop press" - it may be recent news, but the tone of this just doesn't seem quite right to me.

Possibly more later... getting late....


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 12

endless_cups_of_tea

Hi there! Thanks for all the input smiley - smiley
I think that amendments are best scheduled for me to do at the Bank Holiday, but you never know!!

Most things i can change, guide ml stuff etc

Tone is a little harder as this would require a bit of a rewrite.
The tone of it for me is someone who lives here trying to pass on enthusiasm but also relay basic information. I suppose that i am trying to lure people here. Maybe this is the underlying tone. I can see that point of the guide is primarily to inform. But i also don't think that boring the reader so that they forget what they have been told is a good idea either. Purely factual entries with no sense of feeling from the writer to my mind are boring. End of. If you can stay awake through them then well done. But would the guide attracts users if they were reading purely a fact filled guide? . Maybe im barking up the wrong tree. But i guess im saying that i feel strongly about this smiley - smiley #

Again, many thanks for all of your contributions, help, cake, tea, etc

Cheers

endless smiley - smiley


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 13

Danny B

I don't think the whole thing needs rewriting - far from it smiley - smiley

I think (and I may be wrong...) that Otto was simply saying that the use of "Stop Press" in that way, in the middle of a paragraph, didn't seem quite right. Perhaps you could move it to a FOOTNOTE..?

These are constantly well maintained and have a ever changing display of flora and faunaStop press - the Gardens have recently earned a Green Flag, which denotes that it is of the highest quality..

smiley - ok


A3900953 - Forest Hill, London, UK

Post 14

endless_cups_of_tea

Thank you smiley - smiley
Panic over. The irony is not lost on me!

If by the way, anyone sees my iron hanging around, that is a different matter....


Cheers again smiley - smiley

endless


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