A Conversation for Churchill - Historian, Writer and Painter - Part One

Peer Review: A37334676 - Winston Churchill - British Prime Minister (An Overview)

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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups

Entry: Winston Churchill - British Prime Minister (An Overview) - A37334676
Author: Opticalillusion - media mynx life would be boring without hiccups - U231227

I feel that this Entry is better suited to this forum.

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A37334676 - Winston Churchill - British Prime Minister (An Overview)

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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

<>
smiley - starin 1911? WWI was 1914-18
smiley - starhome secretary = Home Secretary
smiley - starfirst lord = First Lord
smiley - starcurly apostrophes throughout the Entry, please fix them as they play havoc with some browsers.

smiley - tea

You jump from <>
to "close family" to
<>

Edward VIII<---(note correction) was king in 1936. That's a big gap which requires explanation, even in an overview.

smiley - tea

<> are you sure that's "Pupy"?

smiley - tea

<>
smiley - stardo you mean "then" he returned to government?
smiley - starwhat do you mean by "developed the tank" - there's a difference between being involved with the development - which is what Churchill was - and saying he developed it. According to http://www.firstworldwar.com/weaponry/tanks.htm no one person was responsible for the development of the tank.

smiley - tea

Churchill's sppech = speech

smiley - tea

Winston Churchill Oganisation (outside link title tag) = Organisation

smiley - tea

You have white spaces in your links, eg LINK H2G2 = "A22833227"> there shouldn't be any after the one after LINK:
Oxfordshire

smiley - tea

<> the BBC site you link to gives her name as: Adela Forestier-Walker

smiley - tea

You could start (or end) with that fabulous quote when a woman complained that he was drunk: "I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly."


A37334676 - Winston Churchill - British Prime Minister (An Overview)

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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups

smiley - ta for the comments...have a feeling I'll be needing all that smiley - teasmiley - smiley It is definitely smiley - tea right? smiley - winkeye


A37334676 - Winston Churchill - British Prime Minister (An Overview)

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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Now, would I offer you cat poo coffee?


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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups

debatable smiley - laughsmiley - run


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

I'm feeling beneficial today - have a link for Edward VIII A729957

smiley - ok


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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups

smiley - ta GB ... I have adhered to your points smiley - smiley


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Good Opti, but where's the "close family" section gone?smiley - erm


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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups

smiley - doh I took that out as it was only a line.


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McKay The Disorganised

I don't think he was the first person to receive a state funeral in the 20th Century - I think he was the first commoner to receive a state funeral.

smiley - cider


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Good call McKay, I'd agree with thatsmiley - ok


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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups

smiley - ta noted and changed smiley - magic


A37334676 - Winston Churchill - British Prime Minister (An Overview)

Post 13

kuzushi


Interesting stuff.
However, not much coverage of the war years, and it might be worth mentioning his American Indian ancestry on his mother's side (she was half Cherokee or summat).


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Websailor

Re. his mother's origins this seems to refute the rumours, but I don't know how much trust can be put in this information either. I tend to think it is correct though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennie_Churchill

I found a couple of other good links if you are interested.

Websailor smiley - dragon


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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups

First I'd like to smiley - ta you for reading my Entry.

Then query a few points. If I'm only giving an overview do I need to go into detail regards the wars? Also I've mentioned his mother was American; as it's questionable that she could have been of Indian origin I feel it not worth mentioning. smiley - sorry Websailor but I don't look at w... as it's unreliable.




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KB

Opti, I've only glanced through it and I'll give it a proper read later (not tonight though smiley - sleepy) - but I'd agree that you should have a bit more about his role in WWII at least. Let's face it, it's without a doubt the reason he's still so well known.


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McKay The Disorganised

I think this sentence
"He also wrote one novel, several biographies and many histories and his passion for art shines through in Painting as a Pastime (1948)."

Should also have some mention of his winning the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1953.

smiley - cider


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h5ringer

Having titled this entry "WS - British Prime Minister", it should concentrate on that aspect of his life and work. There is scope for another entry about the man more generally. You mention the World Crisis and the Marlborough biography, but omit what is arguably his greatest historical document, A History of the English Speaking Peoples.

Focus on the PM aspect and perhaps, as I said, put the other aspects into another entry; there is a lot more to this great man than just a war-time Prime Minister - in 2002 he was elected "Greatest Briton" in a BBC TV viewers poll, yet in other poll earlier this year, 25% of people thought WS to be a fictional character smiley - rolleyes

smiley - towel


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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups

Oh heck I feel like I've opened a can of worms and am struggling to put them back in some order. I am currently wondering whether to change the title seeing as I know little about politics.


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Post 20

h5ringer

*hastily erects defensive wall around worms to prevent them escaping too far*

>>I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.<<

This quote has for years been aquiring the status of an Urban Myth. The exact words vary from quotation to quotation, and even the addressee changes: was it Socialite Lady Astor or was it Socialist MP Bessie Braddock? Sometimes neither, just an unknown "Woman in the Street".

In case of neither of the named women though would Winston have for a moment thought of calling her Miss (even when drunk) - almost certainly Madam.

This entry is well worth doing Opti, but you need to decide which aspect to go with, otherwise you are in danger of slipping between the cracks. Don't give up though, just pick a horse and ride it to the FP.

smiley - towel


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