h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

I think the regions might look better (and be easier to read) as a bulleted list rather than with subheaders for each one.

The other comment I'd have would be that the two things I think most Americans associate with Florida are given remarkably little attention -- Disney and the retired population.


Mikey

Thank you everyone but I will be making no further revisions.
what you see is what you get.

If that is your stance, shagbark, you may be disappointed

There are a few Scouts keeping an eye on this, but it won't get picked until it's actually ready. That is, that you have addressed *all* the points in PR, not just the ones you want to.

There are some gaps in this, some spelling and grammatical errors, and to be honest it would be too much for a sub to finish up as it is. You need to go through this thread and seriously start making some changes as requested. I read this a few hours after it came into PR, and most of the changes you have made have been fairly superficial. I don't mind you posting to 'bump' it further up PR and I appreciate you've read some older entries that have made it into the EG despite being far worse than this one, but you must be open to constructive criticism. If 'what you see is what you get' is the final score, I can't see this getting picked as there are more worthy entries for our attention - where the author has made changes where necessary, has been receptive to comments and has put in the work to make the entry complete.

I think this will be a good entry and a fine addition to the Guide, but the comments that are coming from Scouts to say 'almost' there must make you realise that there is more to be done.

So when you say 'any scouts around?', you must be aware that we go through a lot of entries daily, and only pick the ones that are ready. Responding to the comments in a more positive way and making adjustments where necessary will certainly speed this entry's passage through.

I really hope you do pick up on these points in the posts above and change the 'making no further revisions' attitude. If you can't do that, perhaps entering it into PR (the forum where you should expect to have to make changes) wasn't such a good idea.

I wish you all the best with this entry

Speaking as an ex-Scout and Sub, I agree entirely

I'd like to see this make it into the Edited Guide, so what I'm saying is please don't give up with it now

As I have known for some time what comes in Peer Review
are not orders to be followed but weakness to be addressed.
I have seen some articles picked with only 20 posts. this one has three times that many. If the scouts don't think it is ready by now I could spend another three month on it and they still wouldn't pick it. Meanwhile articles like Jimmy Buffet are in the EG with
errors( From Mobile Alabama). If my atitude keeps it out of the EG well so be it.

They are not orders, no. But generally speaking, when Scouts participate in threads and suggest some revisions to an entry, that usually means they are interested in picking it once the suggestions made in Peer Review have been addressed by the author. By ignoring those suggestions, I'd say you're shooting yourself in the foot by not co-operating. When I was a Scout, if I saw a researcher had failed to follow what seemed to me perfectly good advice from another Scout about how to improve their entry, I would not pick it until those points had been addressed one way or the other.

Peer Review is about collaboration - everyone working together to produce the best possible end result. All of the articles I've had accepted for the EG were made better by the contributions of people in PR. It's not about 'here it is, take it or leave it'.

Certainly, it *is* possible and permissible to ignore advice given in PR - but generally speaking, you have to justify why you're not doing whatever it is that you've decided not to do.

Also, the reason things are the way they are now in Peer Review is that quality control has been tightened up since the early days of h2g2 - it's to stop flawed articles like that Jimmy Buffett one getting into the Edited Guide.

Me, I'd say that Buffett entry should be removed from the EG until it is corrected. If anyone wants to make that point, <./>Feedback-Editorial</.> is the place to do it. If anyone wants to create a revised version of it, the UpdateForum is the place to do it. Me, I have other fish to fry.

That may sound lazy but I do have put my money where my mouth is on these kind of issues in the past - I once found an atrocious entry on Indie Music that was linked to from the Edited Guide (so I believed it was an EG entry although actually it wasn't) and six months of development work later I'd collated everyone's responses to the original article and added some of my own stuff and created A1103789.

Oh, and the original that people had objected to was A210006, in case anyone was wondering...

It's not like i was a paid staffer for the guide. I don't even have my real name on the articles. All I get out of it is the satisfaction of sharing my research and my viewpoint with others.
If I think subheaders look better than bullets and someone else doesn't they need to ask is it their article? When they do one they can use bullets. As to where to address Jimmy Buffett I think you have a good Idea so I am off to feedback forum.

well, I'm back briefly to let you know the article I objected to was
A225875 which is an edited article. As shazz and others noted A210006 is not an edited article.

>not orders to be followed but weakness to be addressed.

Exactly. You need to address the weak points because it won't get picked as it is! Some of the early entries that were rubbish is the reason why we have the writing guidelines.


>If the scouts don't think it is ready by now I could spend another three month on it and they still wouldn't pick it.

To be fair, though, you haven't responded by making many changes, have you? If you had made the changes requested it would have been off by now, for sure. If you're not prepared to work on it it *will* stay here forever

If you aren't going to address and change any of the suggestions made then I'm afraid we're going to have to ask you to take this out of PeerReview. If you make the changes then of course it can stay, if not then it shouldn't be here.

Kat

I was wondering how long it would be before someone suggested I get out of Peer Review. I knew it was coming, I just didn't know who would broach the subject and when. I don't need more Edited articles. Hopefully this article is better because of the time it spent in PR and I am not closing the door on someone else submitting it, but next time I won't be the one making the submission.
I am now unsubscribing to this thread.