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Peer Review: A3346274 - FLAMBOROUGH
BlindLemonLarry Started conversation Nov 30, 2004
Entry: FLAMBOROUGH - A3346274
Author: BlindLemonLarry - U1144072
I noticed that my home village had no entry, so here's a short entry for North Yorkshire/ Flamborough
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Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Nov 30, 2004
This is what h2g2 is all about: puting the spotlight on places and subjects that might never get any attention otherwise.
Simple, but effective, this is a good starting point. I think you can add a ltitle more detail without having to do too mad
When you say that Flamborough is the most Northeasterly point of England, you should state which county that puts it in, for the benefit of people who don't know English geography. You should also note its nearest cities (give distances in miles).
"every year they dress as Vikings and re-enact a bit of Rape and Pillage, purely for charitable purposes. "
I thought this was wonderfully understated, a very subtly humourous line there. You don't need the 'however' at the beginning of that section though, as you're starting a new point, and you could possibly afford to describe the events in more detail.
Also, you mention the Viking influence on the locals. Are there any family names that might support this? You don't have to name individuals, but if there are any roadnames or family businesses with Viking names?
Just a few ideas to think about. i'd love to hear more about your home
Jimster
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BlindLemonLarry Posted Nov 30, 2004
I think I've covered all your points now.
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sprout Posted Nov 30, 2004
Maybe just a little bit more on local facilities - can I stay the night? Is it near a station/how do I get there? Anyone famous come from Flamborough?
Other than that - it's a good entry, for sure.
sprout
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JulesK Posted Nov 30, 2004
We went on a school residential trip to Filey when I was about 10 and I'm sure we went to Flamborough Head. Am I in the right area or is memory playing tricks?
Jules
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BlindLemonLarry Posted Dec 1, 2004
Yep, Filey is just up the road half way between Scarborough and Flamborough.
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gentlemanIconclast Posted Dec 1, 2004
Nice guide entry. I liked the dry humour.
For someone like me not living in England could you say something about how close it is to Scotland, which I assume it is?
Minor nitpick: in the paragraph where you talk about John Paul Jones I believe he was a naval officer, not a navel officer, though I agree that naval officers do spend a great deal of their time and attention checking out navels and other parts of local women when they are in port.
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BlindLemonLarry Posted Dec 1, 2004
I think I've now covered those angles as well.
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HonestIago Posted Dec 1, 2004
I like this entry, I think it'll be a great entry to the Guide. A few minor points, I thought the 'separated from Scotland by geordies" etc went on a bit too long and I'm not sure the tone was entirely appropriate for the Guide. When talkning about Flamborough Head could you mention a bit about its unusual geology and how the coast to the north and south is eroding very fast while Flamborough is taking much longer
Good luck with this
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the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish Posted Dec 1, 2004
I guess i'm being dense now, but how is the most North Easterly point defined ?
Is there any major signifing sign?
Hadrians Wall doesn't mark the boarder between England and Scotland anymore, as far as I know.
If the lighthouse was biult in 1974, it may well have been nearer the coast at one point and the coast ran off
had Flamborugh got is own fishing forcast zone or am I jsut imaginig it ? could be worth mentioning ing.
Anyway, like the Jimster says, this entry is lookign like a valuable addition to the EG
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Dec 1, 2004
The normal definition of "most northeasterly" would be that if you go northwest or southeast from the head, you will not encounter any other part of England.
It's the same way that Land's End is the most southwesterly point in Great Britain. It's not the most southerly (Lizard point is that) and it's not the most Westerly (Ardnamurchan Head is that), but it is the most southwesterly.
Excellent entry, by the way.<ok?
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BlindLemonLarry Posted Dec 1, 2004
Hmm Geology... well you might be moving away from anything I really know. However, I vaguely recall that there are some especially hard rocks about Flamborough that go out deep into the sea making the area especially treacherous to shipping. However I also know that the cliffs are eroding even in Flamborough so I'm not sure that its rate of erosion is that much different.
All I know is that you don't stand on the edge of the cliffs, the golf course has lost a few more yards, and some of the holiday bungalows have slipped away...
I shall investigate a bit further.
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BlindLemonLarry Posted Dec 1, 2004
North Easterly is... er... well the most North Easterly. Just look at a map and you can see.
The seventeenth century lighthouse is a complete mystery to everyone. Maybe it wasn't a lighthouse but a beacon for inland communication rather than for warning shipping.
Flamborough doesn't have its own shipping region. But I should quote me on that. I think Dogger bank is the nearest but I don't know.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Dec 2, 2004
I'm pretty sure that the "most north-easterly" claim is untrue. If you draw a line on a map from the tip of Norfolk to the tip of Northumberland, it goes through the sea beyond Flamborough, at least on my atlas. This means that one of those two must be more Northeasterly than Flamborough. But it could be an artificial effect due to the flattening of England to make it fit on a page.
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BlindLemonLarry Posted Dec 2, 2004
I'm afraid in the end you have to look at the co-ordinates and then ask is there any point in Britain as far north and as far east as Flamborough Head.
I don't think you will find one.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Dec 2, 2004
Well if it is me and my atlas, or the good people of Flamborough, I'll go for me any day! But I'll look into it.
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gentlemanIconclast Posted Dec 3, 2004
Wow, you've really changed the entry, and it is now a much more valuable resource for a poor hitchhiker who has no prior knowledge. The section on Yorkshire history is especially interesting.
Another minor typo nit. In the section "Who are Yorkshiremen" you say "...by the mass slaughter that the Normans reeked upon...". I'm not sure, but this should perhaps be "wreaked".
I think this entry shoude definitely be approved for an edited entry in the guide.
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BlindLemonLarry Posted Dec 6, 2004
reeked... is now wreaked!
Spell Checkers consistently fail to make up for my complete inability to avoid spelling phonetically!
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Peer Review: A3346274 - FLAMBOROUGH
- 1: BlindLemonLarry (Nov 30, 2004)
- 2: Smij - Formerly Jimster (Nov 30, 2004)
- 3: BlindLemonLarry (Nov 30, 2004)
- 4: sprout (Nov 30, 2004)
- 5: JulesK (Nov 30, 2004)
- 6: BlindLemonLarry (Dec 1, 2004)
- 7: BlindLemonLarry (Dec 1, 2004)
- 8: gentlemanIconclast (Dec 1, 2004)
- 9: BlindLemonLarry (Dec 1, 2004)
- 10: HonestIago (Dec 1, 2004)
- 11: the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish (Dec 1, 2004)
- 12: Gnomon - time to move on (Dec 1, 2004)
- 13: Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman (Dec 1, 2004)
- 14: BlindLemonLarry (Dec 1, 2004)
- 15: BlindLemonLarry (Dec 1, 2004)
- 16: Gnomon - time to move on (Dec 2, 2004)
- 17: BlindLemonLarry (Dec 2, 2004)
- 18: Gnomon - time to move on (Dec 2, 2004)
- 19: gentlemanIconclast (Dec 3, 2004)
- 20: BlindLemonLarry (Dec 6, 2004)
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