h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Changes made within the hour!

Any changes I have not made is either because I thought that by adding them they would confuse the entry, or because I missed a spelling / grammar mistake while editing.

Hopefully it should be done now!

Sorry for being lazy and not checking the backlog, but i was wondering about a few things.

Is there going to be a section for the appendixes?

Plus, i reckon the order in which the charecters are lited should be alterd slightly. For instance, putting denethor, boromir, and faramir together in that order, instead of split by Eowyn and Eomer. And then putting Eowyn and eomer below theoden. Perhaps also putting isildur near aragorn.
This would fit along with the elves being put together (although id reverse the order so that legolas is next to gimli - and then mention a bit about his title of elf friend)

Its good reading, but it would be better if you could go from one
charecter to another without looking down the page


Its clearly a labour of love, and hopefully when this goes into the guide it will inspire other people to focus on areas of the book and certain charecters (gollum, the istari, or even a seperate entery for the appendices would all make good reading)

Well done

Mmmkya, it's been a while since I was in this thread and there's a lot of backlogue, so forgive me if some of these points have been discussed and set aside.

Istari - "who only die once their ‘task’ for this life has been completed"
Really? I thought it was firmly established that the Istari were Maiar. And Gandalf didn't die - he returned to the West.

Why are Orcs in the 'Goodies' section?

Sam - "one of the strongest and loyal hearts"
'one of the strongest and most loyal hearts'

"Sméagol almost takes over control again"
'Sméagol almost takes control again'

"He was sent down the Falls of Rauros"
'His body was sent...'

"Denethor is the steward of Gondor"
Steward is a title and should be capitalised.

"and ends as the white wizard after escaping certain death and overthrowing the evil white wizard, Saruman."
Gandalf was the white wizard before Saruman was overthrown and driven from Orthanc. Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli first meet Gandalf the White in Fangorn long before the ents move on Isengard, in fact only a day after having seen Saruman the White in the forest.

Caradhas - Caradhras


Scout

Thanks people, these changes will be made on Friday

Ok, so it took a little longer than I anticipated but RL intervened.

I have re-jigged the characters in the order suggested and have tried to include all your corrections Gosho - thanks

Somebody come and read the finished articles

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I don't know if you want to mention this or not, it might get to detailed.

Gandalf had the Ring of Fire called Narya.
Galadriel had the Ring of Adamant or Ring of Water called Nenya
Elrond had the Ring of Air or Ring of Sapphire called Vilya.

Elrond's ring had the power mainly of healing
Galadriel ring had the power mainly of seeing
Gandalf's was all fire.

Maybe you dont have to mention the elven names but just something like... "She is the keeper of Nenya, the ring of water one of the three elven rings."
or "She is the keeper of the ring of water, one of the three elven rings."

Otherwise a wonderful job, a lot of good effort.

Luthiena, as the thread's resident LOTR layman - the man who knows nothing about the subject, and cares somewhat less. I promise I will read this and comment over the weekend. I cannot guarantee that I will pick it, but I will do my best to push things forward. OK?

I may have another look through this later tonight.

Thanks you guys...I'll think about the ring thing

I would think that it's ready myself. You could end up just rewriting the book if you include *everyone's* suggestions. Remember it's your article and you ultimately decide what goes in it.

To my mind this article has been thoroughly peer reviewed already and a line has to be drawn at some point. To my mind it is ready now.

And a fine effort it is too

Thank you

I too thought it was ready but I like to please everybody and I *really* want it to be picked

Luthiena, I think the content is close to perfect, now.

I'd like to see an article called "On Balrogs" giving more information on these charming fellows, but perhaps I'll write it myself. Your article is quite long enough as it is.

Zube

Thanks for your vote of confidence, I just need a scout to think that now

Luthiena, I know that you got so many suggestions that you had to pick and choose, but there are a few things I really feel you should clear up before this is picked. (I'm not a scout, but I know that the Eds like things to be as tidy as possible before the entry is picked).

1. You should use at the end of each line of the initial poem instead of putting and around each line, so that it isn't double spaced.

2. The after "This is an overview of the books of" should be moved to before "This is an overview of the books of".

3. It is odd and misleading to say that the Lord of the Rings consists of seven books and to list their titles. This was Tolkien's original intention, but this is not the way they were published. The books were published without name as Book 1, Book 2 etc, and were bound into three volumes with names chosen by Tolkien. This is the way every edition except one has been published, so you should mention it and give the names of the volumes. It's completely wrong to say the the Appendices are usually published as part of book 6. I don't think there's any edition that does that. The appendices are normally published as part of the third volume, which includes Book 5 and Book 6 as well.

4. This sentence is a bit odd:

It is only when Faramir lies dying that Denethor sees the error of his ways and tries to kill them both.

It would be better stated as:

It is only when Faramir lies dying that Denethor sees the error of his ways, but despair drives him to madness and he tries to kill them both.

Well done Luthiena, on all the work you have done so far, but I would like to see these little points cleared up.

Thanks; these points will be dealt with on Monday

The Rings don't have to be mentioned, for afterall there purpose is secondary in the books.

If you don't, dont
If you do.

In any case its a beautiful article already.

Thank you

Changes made....please be finished

Yes I think it is finished.

I've read it in some detail, which was an informative and enjoyable experience [note: I'm *still* not going to read the full book ]

Reading the thread, I'm sure that there are folk who would disagree and who would say that this or that should be left in / taken out etc. But from what I can see, devotees of the LOTR can never agree on the importance of various elements - honestly, you lot are worse than Trotskyites

But as Orcus has said, it's your entry and you decide what goes in. Now I think that this meets all of the criteria set down for a successful EG entry and that it is time to forward this on to the editors