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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Sep 13, 2009
>> 2.substitutes a real blade for a harmless one to assassinate??? <<
This 'theme' could be either the poisoned sword tips of Hamlet or the
hallucinated dagger-before-the-eyes of the Scottish prince.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Sep 15, 2009
Curse you Red Baron! That's a trick question!
Of course everything is initiated by the King, Hamlet's murderous uncle.
BUT one knows that King's usually get someone to do the dirty work for them.
Memory reminds me the play does reveal that Hamlet's opponent in the duel is
aware of the deadly betrayal and dies of his own treachery.
I'll be damned if I can remember his name.
He might have become Hamlet's brother-in-law if this were a comedy. It's not.
I have been in this play. I have seen this play performed a hundred times and more,
but I'll be damned if I can remember his name. Curse you Red Baron, agent of K-Oz.
I have to keep telling myself that one does not really need to remember the names of
villains, there are so many heroes to be recalled.
~jwf~
QI - Brushing up on your Bard
Taff Agent of kaos Posted Sep 15, 2009
brother in law, thats a good one, a nudge is as good as a wink.......
he was the brother of the girl who killed herself who was in love with hamlet
QI - Brushing up on your Bard
~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Sep 15, 2009
Yep, and had they married, as was suggested they should, he would have become Hamlet's brother-in-law. In a meeting between them, the concept is introduced by one of them.
At what point in the overall plot this happens I cannot pinpoint in recollection, because after performing in this play a hundred times (in rehearsals and performances) it becomes a series of abstractions connected by dialog triggered by dialog. Everything about it is imbued in the overall context not just the linear timeline of script.
The notion of brotherhood would have been more and more ironic as the play unfolds and Shakespeare wasn't big on irony as such; he had a grander sense of poetic justice and the Fates.
~jwf~
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Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... Posted Sep 15, 2009
Ophelia's brother was Laertes.
QI - Brushing up on your Bard
~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Sep 28, 2009
Uhm... this one still eludes me.
>> 7."As private parts to the gods are we, they play with us for their sport." <<
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Sep 28, 2009
right to recap
where in shakespear do these come from
1.The three crones, their names are Goneril, Regan and Cordelia
....3 witches from mcbeth with the names of king lears daughter
2.substitutes a real blade for a harmless one to assassinate???
..... leartes and claudius plot hamlets murder
3.The King shouts, "Chiswick! Fresh horses!"
.....?????
4.Three messengers come to the King in quick succession with news of the war. He says, "I like not this news! Bring me some other news."
.......echo of a scene in ....????
5."we few, we happy few, we band of ruthless bastards"
..... henry V speech....which one???
6."For God's sake, let us sit upon the carpet and tell sad stories...".
.......a direct quote from???
7."As private parts to the gods are we, they play with us for their sport."
.....???
QI - Brushing up on your Bard
Taff Agent of kaos Posted Dec 21, 2009
right initially this was a list of quotes from blackadder which owed a glance toward the bard, and who ever came up with the original shakespear reference was to beed
bob blew that so i swapped it, you had to come up with the original source of the quote
1.The three crones, their names are Goneril, Regan and Cordelia
1.a.The three crones who turn up at the end of the episode to tell Edmund that he will be King one day, are inspired by the witches from Macbeth. Their names are Goneril, Regan and Cordelia, the names of King Lear's three daughters.
2.substitutes a real blade for a harmless one to assassinate???
2.a.Blackadder substitutes a real blade for a harmless one to assassinate McAngus, echoing the trick played by Laertes and Claudius on Hamlet.
3.The King shouts, "Chiswick! Fresh horses!"
3.a.The King shouts, "Chiswick! Fresh horses!" This sounds Shakespearean, but it isn't. We've checked
4.Three messengers come to the King in quick succession with news of the war. He says, "I like not this news! Bring me some other news."
4.a.Three messengers come to the King in quick succession with news of the war. He says, "I like not this news! Bring me some other news." This is an echo of a scene in Richard III. After hearing bad news from a third messenger, Richard says, "There, take thou that till thou bring better news."
5."we few, we happy few, we band of ruthless bastards"
5.a.Blackadder calls the Black Seal, "we few, we happy few, we band of ruthless bastards" - an echo of Henry V's speech before the Battle of Agincourt.
6."For God's sake, let us sit upon the carpet and tell sad stories...".
6.a.In a moment of sadness, Percy solemnly says, "For God's sake, let us sit upon the carpet and tell sad stories...". This is a direct quote from Richard II.
7."As private parts to the gods are we, they play with us for their sport."
7.a.Melchett bemoans their cruel fate with, "As private parts to the gods are we, they play with us for their sport." This is a take on Gloucester's line in King Lear: "As flies to wanton boys, are we to the gods, /They kill us for their sport."
points to follow
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