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A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Jan 27, 2004
Thanks dude! I'll change it at once. Please keep your comments on the article comming. I think I'm almost there!
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Geggs Posted Jan 30, 2004
I'm a little worried now.
When I read this entry before, I had thought that there were to many references to "The Big Match a Trilogy in Two Parts", a pantomime which I suspect many will not have heard of (including me).
I just saw over in another thread (F48874?thread=366429&skip=5) that Shadowbane claims that he wrote the pantomime is question himself.
As I say, this worries me a little. Presumably there's no copyright problems, as Shadowbane wrote it, but I wonder whether the reliance on the panto in this entry rings of self promotion.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying it is self-promotion, just that I'm worried it might be. And whether that would be acceptable in the Guide, or if a re-write is needed to remove references to said panto. What does everyone else think? Am I being needlessly worried?
Geggs
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Jan 30, 2004
I didn't write it all by myself their was considerable input from the rest of Angry Imp productions. It will be more well known when it's published on our web site. We are firm belivers in granting free copywrite to whoever wants a copy for a charity performance. Any self promotion is entirly selfless as we don't get any money or praise for writing this stuff. I could change a few references however they are intended to highlight unconventional and inovative elements of Pantomime and "the Big Match" scripts are certainly unconventional. If anyone has any suggestions of pantos to mention to balance things up please give me them. Right now I'm going to log of and work on "Dick Whittingdon's Wonderful Treasure Island" (there's two stories you never thought could be combined!)
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Feb 2, 2004
I have removed one reference to the afformentioned pantomime but I'm unable to find any other pantos with rapping narrators. If your so concerned about self promotion why don't you help me find one. It is important to remeber pantomime is everywhere and "alternative" stories rarely strike headlines or are heard of outside of the area they are performed in. With the exception of "Snow White and the Seven Asylum Seekers" which I belive was unfairly censored. As a supporter of good old Greg Dyke what are your feelings on this? By the way how do you put the amusing comments by your username like that?
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Feb 2, 2004
By the way check out the rapping cow in "Rapping in Pantomime!"
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Pimms Posted Feb 5, 2004
Shadowbane
There are a good number of typos in this entry still. Are you able to run it through a spellchecker?
If you want I can point a few out later, but you'll still need to do the corrections yourself.
Pimms
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Feb 6, 2004
A list of Typos would be handy Pims as I have the worst knowledge of spelling and gramma on H2G2! Thanks for the offer!
P.S: Seriously dude check out that rapping cow!
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Pimms Posted Feb 6, 2004
Not the worst, just one of the worst Seriously do you not have a spellcheck facility? I always use one to identify the obvious typos.
Pimms
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Pimms Posted Feb 6, 2004
Ok, here they are:
It has survived all manner of dismals ()>
It has survived all manner of adverse criticism (perhaps)
inovation > innovation
varity > variety
orginal > original
bellow have phased > below have been phased
Dwarves if like Tolkein you're touchy about the spelling of short ugly gits who work in a mines >
Dwarves if, like Tolkein, you're touchy about the spelling of vertically challenged persons who work in mines
Examples include the Roald Dahl's "Revolting Rhyme" versions > Examples include Roald Dahl's 'Revolting Rhyme' versions
stratagey > strategy
In traditional fairy tales they are as much of a bimbo as they are in the story. () >
(perhaps) In traditional pantomimes they are as much of a bimbo as they are in the original fairy tale.
Emporer > Emperor
When playing the King it is always best to think of Brian Blessed. Who, ever since he appeared as Richard IV in "Blackadder" has come to define comedy kings. >
When playing the King it is always best to think of Brian Blessed. Ever since Blessed appeared as Richard IV in 'Blackadder' he has come to define comedy kings.
tool who's origins > tool whose origins
eg. "Darcon were'nt keen on Nursey cos she ain't no Venus but she loves him cos he's got a big....... scroll" >
eg 'Darcon wasn't keen on Nursey, 'cos she ain't no Venus, but she loves him 'cos he's got a big....... scroll' (altered punctuation)
is the only pantomime to my knowledge > may be the only pantomime
and I wish it was used more often > and possibly should be used more often (no first person references)
"Cinderella" and "Dick Whittington" proves > 'Cinderella' and 'Dick Whittington' prove
They > These two (to emphasise why they prove music is unnecessary)
Greece Lightning > Greased Lightning (perhaps? The song from Grease yes?
"Rubbish! > 'Rubbish!' (missing apostrophe - note *all* double quotes (") need to be replaced by single quotes('))
likley to be familar with Morcambe and Wise > likely to be familiar with Morecambe and Wise (3 typos in six words - a record )
saftey > safety
laywers > lawyers
unfortunatly > unfortunately
Pantomime is the Terminator of theatre it may get brutally beaten but it will be back. >
Pantomime is the Terminator of theatre - it may get brutally beaten but it will be back.
Hope these help.
Pimms
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Watermusic Posted Feb 6, 2004
Hi Pimms and Shadowbane.
I posted around 30 errors about 3 weeks ago on the Work in Progress thread - and most of the " 's were mine! - before I found that ' 's were the correct way of doing things
Still, we'll get you sorted Shadowbane!
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
amusedO Posted Feb 6, 2004
This explores a lot of depth in the creation of the pantomime, and I was very pleased to see Shakespeare incorporated; his plays contain all the elements of great pantomime.
A very enjoyable piece which gives insight to the complexity of pantomime.
Amused0
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Feb 11, 2004
What about "verticly and astheticly challenged persons?"
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Feb 11, 2004
By the way my charity production company's web site is currently under construction at www.freewebs.com/aipcp If any of you are considering putting on a show for a good cause this is a good place to start.
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Pimms Posted Feb 11, 2004
I don't particularly recall any necessity for dwarves to be ugly, or indeed (as originally described) 'gits' - the description just struck me as unneccessarily offensive.
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Feb 12, 2004
I think the reson I refered to them as gits was that I had just lost a game of Warhammer against a Dwarf army! Sorry for any unecessary offence caused.
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Feb 12, 2004
All errors sorted. Anything else?
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Pimms Posted Feb 12, 2004
You don't appear to have addressed all the points raised in post 29.
I don't mind if you disagree with any suggestions made in PR, but if you are not going to make changes it is best to note that you have considered them.
Possibly the updates you have made are not yet visible in the entry, but certainly there currently appear to be numerous " double-quotes that need to be replaced with ' single-quotes (in line with writing guidelines).
I'd like to know what you mean by 'dismals' if you are keeping that phrasing.
Pimms (bemused - but not offended, shorta**ed b***ers)
A2203831 - The Secrets of Pantomime
Shadowbane Posted Feb 12, 2004
Cripes! What have I missed Pimms?
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