A Conversation for Angband - the Computer Game
Peer Review: A2134036 - Angband
Ekaterin Started conversation Dec 15, 2003
Entry: Angband - A2134036
Author: Ekaterin - U239615
My attempt at taking Zathras's Angband article and bringing it up to Edited Guide standard. I hope a good Angband player can look over the article and tell me if I've gone horribly wrong anywhere.
Ekaterin.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Dec 15, 2003
This should be entitled "Angband - the Computer Game" to distinguish it from "Angband - the fortress of Morgoth in the works of JRR Tolkien".
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Bagpuss Posted Dec 16, 2003
I haven't played Angband much, so I can't be sure on the details, but the disappearance of levels once you leave them isn't entirely unique.
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Ekaterin Posted Dec 16, 2003
I'm afraid my limited experience of roguelikes is showing. Levels don't disappear in Nethack or SLASH'EM, and in ADOM they only disappear in the "infinite dungeon", not the big main dungeon and not any of the other smaller dungeons.
What other roguelikes have disappearing levels?
Ekaterin.
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Bagpuss Posted Dec 16, 2003
Hmmm... Crawl I think. Some others too. It's certainly a noteworthy characteristic of the game, but not quite unique.
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Cyzaki Posted Jan 29, 2004
The last two headers are a bit pointless - it looks strange having a header with only one sentence below it.
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Ekaterin Posted Jan 29, 2004
That was just how Zathras had it, and I've taken them out now. Do you think we need the information about how Angband is not "free software" in the technical sense, which I've also taken out? I don't know whether most roguelikes count as Free Software or not - like Angband, they might have been invented before the idea became popular.
Ekaterin.
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Bagpuss Posted Jan 31, 2004
I've been saying I'd look at your other roguelike articles for a while now, Ekaterin, and what do you know? Somebody beat me to it. Hmmm, this article seems a little light compared to the others. I guess we need someone who knows the game better.
"Scumming is also how the Borg, a computer program to play Angband, manages to win the game."
How about "a computer program which plays Angband"?
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Ekaterin Posted Feb 1, 2004
Yeah, I'm afraid that's the best I can do with my limited knowledge of Angband. Zathras' original article (A528482) had even less useful content. I was hoping to leave the Angband article to someone who was actually good at the game, but no-one volunteered to write it. Do you want me to take this out of PR because I'm not qualified to get it up to Edited Guide Standard?
Incidentally, it would be nice to say a bit about the host of Angband variants, but I've never played any of them - can you help here?
Ekaterin.
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Bagpuss Posted Feb 2, 2004
I don't know that it's not up to EG standard, even if it isn't as good as your other articles. I suppose the question is do you think this article adds to the project or not?
Can't help you with variants. Looking at that family tree I showed you, Mangband springs out, I think it's multiplayer, but I'm not sure. That's about the extent of my knowledge. By the way, did you notice he lists Diablo. I wonder if it's worth mentioning Diablo in the roguelike article, although my feeling is that it's not a true roguelike as it's not turn-based.
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Ekaterin Posted Feb 3, 2004
Suppose this article got into the Edited Guide, and then an expert Angband player came along and wanted to improve it, would that cause problems? If not, then yes, I'd like it in the project.
From what I've heard, Diablo is rather watered down compared to real roguelikes, and it's also commercial. If people want to try roguelikes they'd be better off downloading a real one for free, IMHO.
I haven't added anything about variants because the Thangorodrim web site wasn't very informative. I played Mangband once, and I've added a bit about it to the roguelike article (it is multiplayer, btw).
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Bagpuss Posted Feb 3, 2004
I don't think so. There is some procedure for altering edited entries. Might as well keep this article in.
I think you heard right about Diablo.
The Mangband bit is interesting; I wondered how it worked. In this article you could give a brief mention of the number of variants existing, which is, I think, quite a few.
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Peer Review: A2134036 - Angband
- 1: Ekaterin (Dec 15, 2003)
- 2: Gnomon - time to move on (Dec 15, 2003)
- 3: Bagpuss (Dec 16, 2003)
- 4: Ekaterin (Dec 16, 2003)
- 5: Bagpuss (Dec 16, 2003)
- 6: Cyzaki (Jan 29, 2004)
- 7: Ekaterin (Jan 29, 2004)
- 8: Cyzaki (Jan 29, 2004)
- 9: Bagpuss (Jan 31, 2004)
- 10: Ekaterin (Feb 1, 2004)
- 11: Bagpuss (Feb 2, 2004)
- 12: Ekaterin (Feb 3, 2004)
- 13: Bagpuss (Feb 3, 2004)
- 14: Ekaterin (Feb 4, 2004)
- 15: h2g2 auto-messages (Feb 5, 2004)
- 16: Gnomon - time to move on (Feb 6, 2004)
- 17: Pimms (Feb 6, 2004)
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