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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Started conversation Nov 21, 2006
Entry: Dominoes - A17077386
Author: MazinMadFiddler - Keeper of Ferrets and Muscalids. Currently Paranoid and Depressed, so Abyssinia!!! With apologies!!! - U236774
Thi sentry was originally created by BlueJaie on the 17th Feb, 2000, entry A16873329.
I havve looked at it a number of times and contacted BJ, with nor reply, requesting permission to tweak it.
As I have received no reply, I have updated it, and hope it is a more rounded entry.
If unsuitable, please let me know and I will pull it.
In anticipation,
MMF
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Bagpuss Posted Nov 21, 2006
Hi MMF, this seems pretty good to me, though it could do with expanding a bit. Also, you should credit BlueJaie as a writer.
A cribbage board is useful for scoring, and indeed Fives and Threes is often played to 61 or 121, once or twice round the board.
Dominoes are often used for gambling. I have played Southern/Iron Cross where the winner is paid by the other three players at a penny a spot.
Other uses for dominoes: domino rallies, building things. And people take rallies seriously. Remember the sparrow that was shot in the Netherlands?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4450958.stm
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Deep Doo Doo Posted Nov 21, 2006
The original A295418 is edited though, so this should be in the Update Forum, I think.
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Nov 21, 2006
All valid points. I can do those.
I'll work on your suggestions over the next couple of days.
Wasn't sure whether to include TriOminoes, not being 'true' dominoes.
Also wasn't sure about Beeb's guidelines on mentioning gambling.
How do I transfer it? Any ideas?
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Nov 21, 2006
Well done.
You mention the pictured dominoes for children twice- once is sufficient.
>>The dominoes are laid face down and shuffled to mix the dominoes.<< I'd say it's obvious that they're mixed when shuffled.
>>the player takes a replacement domino from the boneyard, hence the term bone2<<
>>2 There is also a belief that the word came from dominoes' original composition, although it may just have been a material close to hand. Hence boneyard.<<
This doesn't really make sense to me, do you mean 'material' when you say 'composition'?
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Nov 21, 2006
I guess when submitting it, ther update forum should have been one of the suggested fora? To remove it from PR, go to <./>Peerreview</.>, scroll down and tick the little x next to your entry. Then try again submitting it, but choose the other forum. Well, I guess that's how it works.
Have a look at the <./>updateforum</.> page, it's all described there.
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Nov 21, 2006
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Icy North Posted Nov 21, 2006
But will you get the same quality of PR feedback response in the update forum? You've basically rewritten this from scratch.
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Magwitch - My name is Mags and I am funky. Posted Nov 21, 2006
I agree with you Icy, but I can't help wondering? I know B'Elana's right but, it was the same with the Marillion 'update'. It was far superior, as this is!
Well done MMF!
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Nov 21, 2006
I am now totally confused. PR or UF?
The first edited version seemed to be a bare skeleton of what dominoes are, and also written six years ago. I have tried to make it a lot more in-depth, without making it too complicated... I could have included many more variations on games played, but have included some of the suggestions mentioned above.
I don't know how I lost the Crib link, (another game I ) as I did have it included. Now duly returned, as that is an important component of the game...
Shall attempt to do a link to Domino toppling, especially as a new record was set at the weekend, but I can only find a video link at present.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Nov 21, 2006
You won't get the same quality of feedback in the Update Forum. But the rule is that this is an update, so it should be in the update forum. I suggest you leave it here for a few days, then move it into the Update Forum.
Things work much more smoothly in the update forum. Once everybody is satisfied that it is finished (and I mean completely finished), a curator copies it over the existing entry, and we notify the Eds, who put up a front page ad for it soon afterwards.
The only disadvantages are 1. many people who are subscribed here are not subscribed there; and 2. you can't get a Solo Edited Entry credit for it if it is an update (unless it's an update of your own entry).
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Nov 21, 2006
Thanks.
Not worried about the solo entry thingy. After all, it is something I wanted to update, and know the thought and work that has gone into it.
Just wanted a little input from others to make sure it fills the necessary criteria, having never done an update. I'll move it at the weekend, on your suggestion.
I didn't want to over-egg the entry, and thought this was a reasonable attempt. It can never be perfect.
Thanks again.
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U168592 Posted Nov 21, 2006
I'd give it a week here (so as to ensure that after a week it isn;t snapped up by a Scout ) then transfer it to the UF with a little explanation that it's already seen some airing in PR - that way it should pass through the UF like a greased monkey
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Nov 21, 2006
The nice thing about Updates is they can go all the way into the Edited Guide without the Eds ever being involved.
All we need the Eds for is to announce the update on the Front Page.
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McKay The Disorganised Posted Nov 21, 2006
Looks good
Just one question - the entry starts with Dominoes are an ancient game - should this be Dominoes is an ancient game ?
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Nov 21, 2006
That is one of those Pedant things.
A domino is, Dominoes are!
I personally subscribe to the 'Dominoes are...' Theory, as you cannot play with a Domino!
Well! Not that I am aware of
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Nov 22, 2006
What's the name of the game, Domino or Dominoes? If it's the latter, I'd agree with Mckay that it should be singular, i.e. Dominoes is ...
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Peer Review: A17077386 - Dominoes
- 1: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Nov 21, 2006)
- 2: Icy North (Nov 21, 2006)
- 3: Bagpuss (Nov 21, 2006)
- 4: Deep Doo Doo (Nov 21, 2006)
- 5: Bagpuss (Nov 21, 2006)
- 6: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Nov 21, 2006)
- 7: aka Bel - A87832164 (Nov 21, 2006)
- 8: aka Bel - A87832164 (Nov 21, 2006)
- 9: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Nov 21, 2006)
- 10: Icy North (Nov 21, 2006)
- 11: aka Bel - A87832164 (Nov 21, 2006)
- 12: Magwitch - My name is Mags and I am funky. (Nov 21, 2006)
- 13: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Nov 21, 2006)
- 14: Gnomon - time to move on (Nov 21, 2006)
- 15: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Nov 21, 2006)
- 16: U168592 (Nov 21, 2006)
- 17: Gnomon - time to move on (Nov 21, 2006)
- 18: McKay The Disorganised (Nov 21, 2006)
- 19: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Nov 21, 2006)
- 20: aka Bel - A87832164 (Nov 22, 2006)
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