A Conversation for Discussions Related to the Lifetime Ban of Researcher AWOL

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Post 41

~~Insomniac.Vampire~~

lynsey,

did i say they was specifically about me? no you emailed my friends quizzing all of us 1 by 1 about the other asking for personal information and photographs/epics of friends(actually probably epics cos even you wouldnt be stupid enough to ask for my address and i wouldnt want yours anyway), you also made reference to something i put in an email to you to a friend of mine (which was a joke and he was aware of it cos i was on the phone to him at the time),
but you twisted it to make it look like i was being a smiley - bleep for what reason? to cause trouble? who knows? who cares? well what you wernt aware of was we have been friends for a long time and only laughed at your childish comments but as i said ancient history now and so long as all involved are aware of what you are like and how you like to twist funny remarks and cause trouble/obtain personal information about people that quite frankly is none of your smiley - bleep business unless said person wished to divulge that to you themselves none of us would be stupid enough to take your smiley - bleep stirring seriously so as i said ancient history smiley - biggrin


but as you pointed out to me, this thread is for another matter much more serious than trouble making in email, so back to the matter in hand......AWOL! smiley - smiley



smiley - fullmoon


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Post 42

Little Miss- Get well soon Kylie.XXX

smiley - vampire

Seriously, I have no idea what your on aboutsmiley - silly
I haven't asked anyone for personal details that they haven't offered to me!
If what I ask other people though, REALLY bothers YOU, you are more sad than I first thoughtsmiley - laugh
I have never twisted anything about anyone & if you say everything(whatever that may be) IS ancient history, why write a huge posting about mesmiley - weirdsmiley - sillysmiley - laugh

Anywhooos, you have AWOL in hand do you?smiley - laugh...Hmmmm...always thought there was something fishy about your 'friendship'smiley - laughsmiley - laughsmiley - laugh


smiley - jester
lynsey


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Post 43

~~Insomniac.Vampire~~

lynsey,

i remember you once said you never come on here weekends, cos you had a life..seems to me your always on here, seeing how quickly youve always responded to posts smiley - doh

you asked me what i was talking about so i told you, dont complain now ive posted it..you havnt asked anyone for personal details about anyone else? you even asked me for pics of Awol along with 'dirt' (there may even be reference to the gathering of 'dirt' on the guy in h2g2 but as far as i know most of your information gathering has occurred in email from what my friends told me and lets not forget Malo you was very curious about him aswell wernt you lol (though that was a long time ago, you not being part of my group of friends anymore hence there emails enevitably dry up but you wouldnt need me to tell you that would you) smiley - tongueout

twisting my words again lynsey? myself, Awol and his family are good pals its true - whats with the dig though? you jealous of that friendship? lmfao perhaps in time you will develop some true friends too that are not merely online 'love interests' or admirers but then i guess you couldnt blame them for the confusion with all the innuendos you post..ooopps i wasnt sposed to say but we have some mutual friends who were smiley - bleepsmiley - laugh at you and forwarded me some emails you sent them so as i could smiley - laugh at you too which i did smiley - biggrinsmiley - bleep and i wasnt gonna mention that lol smiley - winkeye oh i know you have an on/off partner so you will have to get all moral on me now but you know your wasting your breath as i dont really care afterall you mean nothing to so many people including myself smiley - biggrin

well have a fun weekend on h2g2 wont you, once ive caught up on some posts ill be off so you'll have to wait till next week to play smiley - sillysmiley - bleep with me as i have things to do smiley - smiley



smiley - fullmoon


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Post 44

Little Miss- Get well soon Kylie.XXX

In refrence to me asking for pics of Awol, I meant in the way you are always sending "p*ss take" emails you send round, I have NEVER asked for a true picture of him!


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Post 45

Little Miss- Get well soon Kylie.XXX

In refrence to me asking for pics of Awol, I meant in the way you are always sending "p*ss take" emails you send round, I have NEVER asked for a true picture of him!


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Post 46

Little Miss- Get well soon Kylie.XXX

As for the dirt, you were saying you went to visit him & I asked in "joke" if you had found any skeletons in any of his cupboard!
WHO'S TWISTING THINGS NOW!

As for being jealous...don't make me laughsmiley - laugh

I only popped on here, it was just coincidence that you had just posted too!

As for Malo & "your circle of friends" Just who do you think YOU are?? I'm not so desperate as to spend my only time on h2g2, pulling people down, taking the piss out of them & basically bad mouthing them!
You seem to have alot of "dirt" on ME, so who is the sad one, it seems it is you who is probing people about ME & my life!

I AM unsubscribing now, as you are obviously unable to hold a cival conversation!

Goodbye you spineless smiley - bleep

smiley - jester
lynsey


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Post 47

David Conway

Since everything that would document the charges is hidden, it's pretty hard to decide whether or not I'd find anything that AWOL wrote offensive. The only charge that can be proven is the creation of a new account while suspended, pending a lifetime ban.

Now, if the original charges are true, go ahead and ban him until he creates his next account. If they're not (again, I have no way of knowing and am not inclined to take it on faith), restore him. I am not able to find any evidence that the original suspensions were justified.

Without evidence, I can't support a ban.

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Post 48

5/1 on AWOL 2 get life time barring...h2g2 fiddle the votes,,, :o)


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Post 49

5/1 on AWOL 2 get life time barring...h2g2 fiddle the votes,,, :o)

woooohoooooo im back,,lol,,smiley - smiley


its not that im happy about it or not,,:P


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Post 50

Jab [Since 29th November 2002]

smiley - grr at the Editors! Half a message AGAIN.

I just fountd this thread, and it ask for reasons not to ban a user. It does not state HERE why he MAY be banned?????

Oh do I have to read every conversation forum knocking about? What if I miss just one thread?

PLAESE please state HERE why AWOL could be banned, and if just posting "don't do it" messages here will stop it?

Chineese Whispers is it?

smiley - bigeyes


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Post 51

~~Insomniac.Vampire~~

lynsey,

unsubscribing to this thread - again? deja vous? lol

i have no reason to lie when you asked me for pictures and dirt on Awol i told you im only here to take the p*ss out of my pal and anything i said was basically smiley - bleep i went on to say if you wanted a proper pic of him ask him yourself, i also (at the time which im talking about) forwarded that to Awol and hes just confirmed over the phone he remembers so you deny it if you like makes no odds to me but remember you asked me what i was talking about so dont get upset at me for posting smiley - laugh

your not so desperate as to spend all your time on h2g2? lmfao when are you off it? i mean who's kidding who here? ok so you could say smiley - bleep to that but you only have to check your threads and how quickly you always reply to a post directed at you..says a lot does that, and though some of the sites representitives talk smiley - bleep the site itself records every thread time smiley - biggrin

lynsey i wouldnt say i had dirt on you i would just say you contradict yourself a lot and you are a hypocrite, if you wish to talk smiley - bleep by all means do but if your going to lie at least be able to back up your bullsmiley - bleepsmiley - smiley

byeeee lynsey, wonder how long this takes you to reply? smiley - sillysmiley - laugh


smiley - fullmoon


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Post 52

Jab [Since 29th November 2002]

smiley - wah who did what to whom, when, where and why?

Why are the facts missing from post one?

smiley - cry


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Post 53

Rho

Hi Jab,

This thread, <./>T317563</.>, has been created alongside the thread 'Ban Researcher AWOL', <./>T317562</.>, in accordance with h2g2's procedure for lifetime bans, 'Transgressions Procedure for Lifetime Bans', A642296. All the facts are not missing but elsewhere - in the article to which both of these threads are attached, 'Suspension of Researcher AWOL's h2g2 Accounts', A1285210.

RhoMuNuQ
Note: My post in this thread does not mean that I do not believe that AWOL should be banned.


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Post 54

Jab [Since 29th November 2002]

RhoMuNuQ: Thankyou, makes more sense now, this is not so much the debate, but the vote. One vote, two threads. This one for no to the ban, the other for yes.

To quote you "Note: My post in this thread does not mean that I do not believe that AWOL should be banned."

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I don't wish to vote against it directly, but will say... Having seen this in action, am left wondering if all the facts have been presented in a full and fair way?

Life ban, so final. A question, not a demand or vote, could AWOL remain (subject to review in three months, but have a 'prefect' put on guard ie Hoovaloo? Maybe some middle ground could be found. Since Hoo in the other thread keeps refering to AWOL as "thick", "t**t", or has a problem with Yorkshire people? Voting for a ban is made so difficult by Hoo, without reading anything else.

smiley - sadface

If AWOL is so "thick", what is Hoo doing but shooting himself in the foot? Once you've won, you've won? Now Hoo is in danger of giving AWOL validity of point, even if AWOL has picked the worse way to make any point?


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Post 55

Rho

> Thankyou, makes more sense now, this is not so much the debate, but the vote.

It's not a vote - it is a debate. However, the two sides of the debate have been separated into two threads, both attached to the one entry, for convenience. At the end of the debate, which should be tomorrow, the h2g2 Editors will make the decision as to whether or not to ban Researcher AWOL for life. Their decision will take account of posts made in these two threads, but, even if there were was a unanimous belief amongs researchers either way, the Editors are in a position to overrule it.


> To quote you "Note: My post in this thread does not mean that I do not believe that AWOL should be banned."

I only added this to my last post to make my position on the matter entirely clear to anybody reading this thread in isolation, who hadn't read the 'Ban Researcher AWOL Thread'.

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> Having seen this in action, am left wondering if all the facts have been presented in a full and fair way?

I personally believe that the presentation of the facts on A1285210 was both clear and objective.


> Life ban, so final. A question, not a demand or vote, could AWOL remain (subject to review in three months, but have a 'prefect' put on guard ie Hoovaloo?

There are less 'final' restrictions that can be placed on an h2g2 user, such as premoderation (where the Researcher's posts are not visible until specifically approved to not break any House Rules by a Moderator) and a temporary ban (for a period of seven days, or of a month). As described in A1285210, Researcher AWOL has three times been placed on premoderation and had his account suspended at separate times for a week, and then for a month. While his account was temporarily banned, he repeatedly signed up new accounts, and is seemingly still continuing to do so, to post material - including highly offensive material - to the site. This is not a 'grey area' in the rules; it is against h2g2's Rules. "While suspended, returning to h2g2 by creating another account will constitute a further offence and will extend the suspension to the next period, or will result in your account being closed permanently", from the <./>HouseRules</.>, 'Transgressions'.

I believe that he has now had enough 'chances'.


> Maybe some middle ground could be found.

That is precisely why the lesser measures exist.


> Since Hoo in the other thread keeps refering to AWOL as "thick", "****", or has a problem with Yorkshire people? Voting for a ban is made so difficult by Hoo, without reading anything else.

Each individual should review the evidence for themself, and may contribute to the debate. Again, this is not a vote, and the Editors' decision is final.

Hoo has expressed his opinions, I mine, others theirs. Granted, Hoo could have expressed his opinions more tactfully, but it is not my position to label his opinions 'wrong', and I cannot be held responsible for his views. From what I've read, I do not believe that Hoo has a prejudice against people who live in Yorkshire.


> If AWOL is so "thick", what is Hoo doing but shooting himself in the foot? Once you've won, you've won?

It's not a case of winning or losing - the whole idea of these threads is to encourage rational debate about the ban, to bring to the Editors' attention any evidence that they might have missed.


> Now Hoo is in danger of giving AWOL validity of point, even if AWOL has picked the worse way to make any point?

I'm not sure how Hoo could give AWOL validity of point by expressing his own viewpoint, however undiplomatically.


RhoMuNuQ


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Post 56

Researcher 248485

Yeah hoo keep a hooter on it yeah..smiley - smiley

Thick pmp yeah thats right lol,,smiley - smiley

End of the day i'll call it Peace Once the Editor's on h2g2 say SORRY to me im willin to give it a rest BUT untill then i carry on pullin h2g2 and its Editor's down smiley - smiley

smiley - peacedove Plus your lucky im even usin the peacedove sign still..smiley - biggrin


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Post 57

J

You seem to have a strange illusion of power. You're being nothing more than annoying, honestly. The editors won't, and shouldn't, apologize to you

If anything, you should apologize to them

smiley - blacksheep


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Post 58

Researcher 248485

Can i ask why i should be the one t say sorry..?

It wasnt me spammin there email with unwanted post it was them spammin me smiley - smiley

It was them who put the VOTE awol 4 life thread UP

Its was them that told some or Ordered Ace's into the thread to ban awol smiley - smiley

Because No 1 else was 2 bothered

You seem to be takin there side over this little mix up smiley - silly

I wonder why..smiley - smiley

Check a thread made towards nats on h2g2 way back

smiley - peacedove


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Post 59

Grandpa BIRIYANI

Isnt there a fault online..ie,,,the spammin ???...I av noticed that theres 1 or 2 or more threads where there r more than 1 post for 1 reply...know wot i mean ???


BTW.....BRING BACK AWOL !!!!


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