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Peer Review: A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Researcher 168963 Started conversation Aug 24, 2003
Entry: First Edition Books in the UK - A1154873
Author: Dastardly, a Closet Gargoyle - U168963
Obviously a simple version, and it's a dry subject, but I like the fact at the end
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A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Researcher 177704 Posted Aug 25, 2003
Great entry. It makes me wonder how much my Dad's set of four signed Paddington Bear first editions are worth. Is there anywhere online, or any printed publications, where it's possible to find out how much a first edition is probably worth?
Also, what do the other numbers in the 'number line' mean? Are they just there to confuse people who don't know what they're looking for?
A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
GreyDesk Posted Aug 25, 2003
This is definitely the start of a very good entry.
The first paragraph is written in the first person plural and really needs to be changed to the third person. Though I think you can put into a footnote that you too missed out on the opportunity of buying the first edition of the Harry Potter book.
The section that I think is a bit light is the 'Bottom Line' part. Now I admit I'm no expert, but I have spent time trawling through abebooks.com and the sellers there are for ever banging on about the condition of the book and the dust jacket, and foxing, and tight bindings and lord knows what other terminology. Yet you've covered this in only 2 sentences.
What about the print run number? I've got a couple of books that are described as "first edition, second printing". I know that these are worth less than "first edition, first priting", but I don't really understand the difference between a second printing and a second edition. If you do, then I think that that should go into the entry.
Final point. You've described the entry as UK specific, so I assume that they do things a little differently elsewhere in the World. Can we have an example or two if there are some striking differences? These could go in as footnotes I'm sure.
Anyway, in conclusion, I found this an informative and very enjoyable read and I think will make a great little guide entry. Well done
A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Whisky Posted Aug 25, 2003
Another example for you...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/232293.stm
Alice in Wonderland - pre-first edition (withdrawn due to faulty printing) - it was the subject of a TV documentary last week
A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Researcher 168963 Posted Aug 25, 2003
Thanks for all the comments
Rocket Man - as always, I'd suggest seeing a professional. Even if you find a value elsewhere, it's unlikely to take being signed into account. Sorry, not much help. Amazon have a selection of relavent books, but I don't have them so I don't know which would have Paddington information on. 'Children's Modern First Editions' by Joseph Connolly is well-known but apparently the prices are out of date, and being a specialist book Amazon sells it but offers no reviews on it. Again, no idea if it has Paddington in but it's a British book so I would have thought so. No substitute for a real person who knows their stuff though.
Grey Desk - Thanks for being so positive with your criticism
Right...
The reason The Bottom Line is light on information is that this isn't a guide to book valuation or care. That's a whole series of articles by itself. It was just supposed to be a reminder that First editions aren't everything. If people really think I should add more on value then I will, but reluctantly.
Print number. Right, that wasn't at all clear I hope it's better now.
As for international things... that'll take a bit of time. It's pretty much the same in America as the UK but other than that I'm not sure, which is why I went for caution.
And no, I haven't ignored the first person plural. When I can think of a good way to rephrase it I will, and I guess I should vamoosh that second footnote at some point.
Thanks
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A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Cyzaki Posted Aug 25, 2003
How about first editions from different publishers? I've got a book that says:
Doubleday edition published 2000
Corgi edition published 2001
1 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 2
So is that a first edition or not?
A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Researcher 168963 Posted Aug 26, 2003
I've changed the title to 'An Introduction to...'
Cyzaki - assuming your book's published by Corgi, you have a first Corgi edition, but not a first edition. I added a note on this to the entry - thanks
Thanks Gubernatrix
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A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Researcher 168963 Posted Aug 28, 2003
I'm withdrawing the article from PR as I'm heading off into the ether for a while and so won't be able to do anything to it. Sorry about that. Thanks for the comments anyway.
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A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Azara Posted Sep 1, 2003
Good idea, Dastardly - an entry this good is likely to get picked even without any suggested changes being made, which then makes all the commentators very grumpy!
Make sure to post here when you put it back into PR - I have some comments as well, but they'll keep until you have time.
Good luck!
Azara
A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
Researcher 168963 Posted Jul 20, 2004
Hello again
I find myself with time on my hands, so this is headed back into PR.
Let's try this new linking business... F48874?thread=451475 should do the trick.
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Peer Review: A1154873 - First Edition Books in the UK
- 1: Researcher 168963 (Aug 24, 2003)
- 2: Researcher 177704 (Aug 25, 2003)
- 3: GreyDesk (Aug 25, 2003)
- 4: Whisky (Aug 25, 2003)
- 5: GreyDesk (Aug 25, 2003)
- 6: Researcher 168963 (Aug 25, 2003)
- 7: Cyzaki (Aug 25, 2003)
- 8: Gubernatrix (Aug 25, 2003)
- 9: Researcher 168963 (Aug 26, 2003)
- 10: Researcher 168963 (Aug 28, 2003)
- 11: Azara (Sep 1, 2003)
- 12: Researcher 168963 (Jul 20, 2004)
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