h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Mr Badger. If your trying to say an amputee, even a bilateral one, can't slide tackle then you may wish to pay a visit to the Wimbledon disabled football team. Having built some of them their limbs, and saw them in action. I can tell you your wrong.

I found my first slide tackled terrifying, especially since it was an awful foul and my victim decided to throttle me straight after.

I must confess I quite like some of Katie Melua's music, although I prefer Izzi Dunn and don't know what either of them look like.

I dont know so much about that either. I think she's cute enough.

My last girlfriend was size 8, other girlfriends have felt too hung up to reveal their dress sizes to me but Id guess that some of them were probably into the the 20's.

Ive been out with women who I've looked at and been scarred I might break and they've left me wrcked and aching.

As they say its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog. (Dont use this about women in front of women or you might find out just how much fight she has in her


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Bubba I take it back then.

So, have I read this thread right? That Real Men are always trying to measure up to some bizarre stereotype and Real Women are just very comfortable knowing who they are.

Many examples have been given of so-called Real Men - are there any examples of Real Women? Other than me, of course

az

Do you want us to post photo links or what?

Nooooo, gutter-brain

Just examples of who people consider to be Real Women.

az

Good list of criteria this: I seem to come out higher than in the real man stake than I would have thought. Is that a good or bad thing?

I can slide tackle, but it's banned on the artifical surface on which I play. I can and have to mow the lawn.

I like to make IKEA - that's something satisfying about the physical and repetitive nature of it.

I don't know the difference between jojoba and tee tree oil.

I open jars, I own a few power tools.I don't moisturise.

Ally McBeal is fine in small doses. Haven't heard Katie Melua.

I try to work out what's going on in my wife's head, but don't always get it right.

sproutr

I don't think I've ever used the expression in my life, at least not with capitals, so I think I'll leave it...

...but I expect you're about to get a list of names of pornstars.

Porn stars? ick.

Okay then, I'll go first.

The writer Margaret Atwood.
The artist Georgia O'Keefe.
The actress Lauren Bacall.

For starters . . .

az

Pamela Anderson. Sometimes makes bad choices in men, loves her kids.

Florence Joiner Griffiths. Incredibly powerful athlete, spends a fortune on hair and nails.

Maddona. Self possesed and focused, constantly trying to be popular by changing her image.

All women like men have many facets.

Im having trouble to find things other than [removed by moderation team] about Margaret Thatcher though.

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I think that part of the problem is that most men have at best a shaky understanding of masculinity and how to act in relation to it.

A combination of advertisment, reaction to feminism, peer pressure ect mean lots of men are not to sure what it means to be a man.

I think the swear/f*ck/drink/smoke/fight thing is a purely created "ideal" (for want of a better term) that is IMHO far removed from acutual masculinity.

No worries Blickybadger, I was a prothetist at the RNOH in Stanmore for a couple of years and actually played in a couple of practise matches with some amputee sides. Some of these guys were crazy in the challenge. You would see guys go into a fifty-fifty for the ball and quite literaly take someones legs off.

Anyhoo...

What about the expression, "he's a real mans man"

What do people think that means.

A Real Man is also demonstrably virile, proven by the number of offspring sired (quite possibly with more than one woman).

A Real Woman is visibly female with curves in the right places, can run the home, be a mother & look stylish. (I don't think I qualify!)

A real man's man? Frequents the pub, talks & plays sport, has the illusion of being master in his home.

real man = Jimmy Stewart
not a superman like John Wayne, just an ordinary man doing the best he can

real women = any women juggling the many demands modern life puts on her

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Good point Ferrett. And I think it's fair to say that most women have a reasonable understanding of femininity and how to use it.

<<A Real Man is also demonstrably virile, proven by the number of offspring sired (quite possibly with more than one woman).

A Real Woman is visibly female with curves in the right places, can run the home, be a mother & look stylish. (I don't think I qualify!)>>

Oooh, this female stereotype sounds like something out of the 1950s.

Let's all just be REAL guys and drop the man/woman part.

What do ya reckon?

Ice.

"Let's all just be REAL guys and drop the man/woman part."

Nah, let's all be *pretend* guys!

H.

So, what qualities make a Pretend Guy then?

Pretend guys don't eat quiche - they wear it.

Pretend guys don't moisturise - they Marmitise.

Pretend guys don't cry - they stand on a bucket and go "Bibble" at passersby.

Pretend guys don't change nappies - the pixies do it for them.

Pretend guys don't drink halves - they snort warm Baileys from a teaspoon.

H.

I have snorted "Sambuca" from the bottom of an upturned wine glass once.

That was pretty horrible...