h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Not that I know of, or I'd've posted links. Anyone know of anything like this?

Pattern-chaser

"Who cares, wins"

I don't think that BBC article about Sesame St was a joke. Remember, Bush long ago mentioned "winning the hearts and minds." Considering how much negative propaganda floats around in that part of the world, it only makes sense for the US to enter the ideological/psychological part of the conflict.

Wasn't there some strange story about Ernie (of Bert and Ernie fame) appearing in posters with Bin Laden for some obscure reason?

Yes, there are some very funny sites called "Bert is evil" where people have doctored photos to put Bert in compromising situations, with Bin Laden, Hitler, Stailin on the Grassy Knoll (as Jim Davidsons joke writer!).

Evidently some folks going on a pro Al Quaida march downloaded the picture and put it on loads of placards without checking!!!!

http://www.spacecat.com/bert/bert.htm

"Evidently some folks going on a pro Al Quaida march downloaded the picture and put it on loads of placards without checking!!!! "

You do have to wonder at some of these fundys. There are numerous pictures of bin Laden on the Internet, so surely they could have picked a better one. "Hmmm, bin Laden or bin Laden next to this silly puppet?"

And I wonder if they realise that Bert is a grown man who lives with another man and has a close relationship with him?

There might have been some rumours that the British government worked with some of the Loyalist Terrorists in Northern Ireland for a time, but you'd have to check that.

We've done some dispicable things in the past, but I don't think supporting terrorists has been high on the British agenda. I'm not sure if the French Resistance and British Special Operations Executive in France during WWII count as terrorism (I tend to regard terrorists as people who target non-military and civilian targets to political ends, people who target military targets "illegally" I usually think of as guerrillas). Brits tend to think of themselves as by-the-book and upstanding and supporting people who blow up buses and aircraft would probably be seen in Whitehall as the sort of thing ghastly foreigners would get involved in. Not that that has stopped us doing dreadful things in the past, though (see the firebombing of Dresden in "revenge" for Nazi attacks on London).

"see the firebombing of Dresden in "revenge" for Nazi attacks on London"

Not that I would like to in anyway defend the actions of Bomber Harris, but wasn't Dresden mainly about demonstrating the power of Allied aircraft to the advancing Soviet army? As I understand it that was the main motivation.

Blatherskite the Mugwump says
"The only obligation a national government has apart from the welfare of its people is to deal with other countries in a morally and ethically acceptable way."

Not signing the international court had little to do with the US protecting it's citizens. It had more to do with the US leaders such as Kissinger and Chaney not being brought up on charges.
The Policies are protected by not joining ,not the common US citizen.

I believe there was more to Koyto than global warming.
My house has coal dust in it. It did not before Bush was in office.That directly affects myself and my neighbors health.

That is from Bush loosening emission standards from coal burning plants 3 times in one term. He reversered the need for improvements that were law before he came into office. He made many places exempt including any US gov areas and they are obviously large polluters.

What do you suppose he will allow to happen in other countries affected by our companies and Gov installations.

See my post (3695) here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/F80629?thread=155651&latest=1 Pattern-chaser "Who cares, wins"

abbi: Chaney and Kissinger are American citizens. If they cannot be brought up on charges, they are protected. You're making my case for me.

"I believe there was more to Koyto than global warming.
My house has coal dust in it. It did not before Bush was in office.That directly affects myself and my neighbors health.

That is from Bush loosening emission standards from coal burning plants 3 times in one term. He reversered the need for improvements that were law before he came into office. He made many places exempt including any US gov areas and they are obviously large polluters."

If the polluters continue to harm the American environment then they will be reigned-in eventually. From what I can see, they are using the fact that Kyoto is an *external* agreement to play the part of brave Americans resisting evil foreign interference. Inevitably, they will ruin American countryside and landscapes with their immature short-termist attitude to pollution and that is when the politicians should pounce and bring the corporate vandals to book.

the reasn the u.s. won't sign up fer international criminal court is that bush senior is guilty of war crimes...e.g. the use of depleted uranium shells..the invasion of panama

<...bush senior is guilty...>

And not just he, I suggest.

Pattern-chaser

"Who cares, wins"

"abbi: Chaney and Kissinger are American citizens. If they cannot be brought up on charges, they are protected. You're making my case for me."

I know Mugwump!
IF you were expecting an arguement , you won't get it from me.

the point is the government could care less about the soldiers in the field being charged under international criminal court it's the officials that they are concerned with

"the invasion of panama"

Against that poor President Noriaga. What had he ever done to anyone?

And as for that Bill Clinton, deposing that fine upstanding coup in Haiti...

norriega was bushes personal coke dealer he knew too much,,you'll not see him bein interviewed

To go along with this idea of US inhibiting freedom, it is woirth pointing out the World Trade Organisation summit happening this very minute in Mexico. It is probable that the US (and Europe for that matter) will force/bully through tariffs, etc, which will benefit the US only and plunge the developing world further into debt and poverty. This means that the US (and Europe) does not adher to true free trade and it most certainly does not adher fair trade, particularly when the economic supremacy of the US (and Europe) feels threated. Remember the tariffs on steel imports. Remember the trade wars with France over wine. Remember the farming subsidies. How can such people talk about and demand free trade but apply it to themselves? As the self-claimed capitalist centre of the world how can the US be a friend of the free world? This has to stop. There are too many lives are at stake. It is time to topple the governments and the fat cat business men and women responsible for such equality. It isn't just the freedom of the developing world at stake. It's us as well.

Soory, that should read:

It is probable that the US (and Europe for that matter) will force/bully through tariffs, etc, which will benefit the US (and Europe)only and plunge the developing world further into debt and poverty.