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zendevil Posted Mar 11, 2004
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Yes. Yes. And the one makes the other worse & vice versa.
A friend sent me a magnetic bracelet, called "Bioflow", i daren't put a link here 'cos it's probably a commercial site, but she is convinced it MAY help stuff like demyelin yuk, I am now wearing one on my bad ankle...can't honestly say i've seen much difference, but it's early days, not an instant remedy thing, supposed to bring your natural rhythms/circulation etc back into line. But at least it can't (i assume) do any harm & might do some good. i will let you know.
s & abbi!
Terri
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Mort - a middle aged Girl Interrupted Posted Mar 11, 2004
I had a bioflow and it didn't have any effect on me. Another nurse wore one and felt sick and it made her shoulder pain worse, my friend swears by it and I gave him mine !
We did a sort of trial on them for arthritic dogs. We loaned them a collar, and if there was no difference after 2 weeks then they returned the collar - no charge. Lots of people kept them because of the improvement in their pets mobility - some to the point of reducing their pain medication. Owners can *want* to believe it works but that won't make the dog walk better and be more active. Erm the point of that was! - that it isn't like people where you convince yourself something works if you are desperate enough.
Some dogs it worked on, some it didn't but I saw the results so i believe it can help. Unfortunately it didn't work for me.
I hope it helps you Terri as they are fantastic.
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zendevil Posted Mar 11, 2004
Maybe it depends on the animal/person's own natural magnetic stuff? i do know that i seem to have some effect on watches; if I am really stressed out, my watch stops for EXACTLY 1 hour...which is inexplicable. i am usually a pretty sceptical person (hypnotists hate me!),so am unlikely to be susceptible to the "placebo effect" but am also of the opinion that some things are inexplicable other than by the real that we silly humans often don't, won't or can't tap into.
Hedge rule OK?
zdt
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Mar 12, 2004
Hedge unite!!
I didn't know about the bracelets - sounds interesting. I agree that a persons own 'electrics' may affect things. I also think the polarity of the product has to be right too.
I looked at those matresses with magnets in them. Apparently they do wonders for some and not others - I have a friend who swears by theirs. When I did some reading there was something about how the polarity had to be the right one for an individual?
That's a good story about the animals and biomagnetics, Mort. It's the same with homeopathics. When they work for animals there is no way you can say it's placebo.
I think it's fine for some things to work for some and not others - we're all individuals after all. I think you are right Terri about , and it's the indiviual nature of healing that keeps us open to the
Somehow we have come to expect all things to act like drugs, which are designed to have the same effect on anyone (supposedly ). Why can't we have both? Drugs for acute or very specific things and 'alternative' modalities for the more chronic or subclinical things? And across the board
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Mar 12, 2004
Interesting about the dogs.
I think we all have our own electrical, magnetic , vibration ,flow.
Many disciplines have to do with balancing it.
My brother and my aunt were convinced magnets worked for them.
I tried them and found that heat builds up under them and the heat alone is therapuetic by increased circulation in the area.
The fact that MRI machines use magnetic energy and at a micro-cellular level rearrange your cells for a split second makes me believe it is possible to change the flows of energy in the body for good or bad results. I get very warm on my sternum , it almost feels burnt when I have one. It gets more intense each time. They always say I have metal and are very reluctant to proceed but eventually do.
The newer therapies are using various lights and they look interesting. Anything that cannot hurt is worth a try. It helps to feel and act proactive also.
Having been struck by lightning seems to pull energy or interference more than before. I never could wear a watch for more than an hour before it would speed up. Since teh strike I cannot waer one for long because they stop. I also mess up anything that involves magnets or subtle energy fields. I have been told I am far more likely to be hit the second time now.
I am begning to wonder if I am messsing up my computer like I have tape machines and other electronic equipment. It gets expensive!
When I am emotionally charged so to speak I am unable to watch Tv- the signal will not settle down and the volume goes up and own or it turns off I have mess up compasses and film too.
The other thing that comes to mind is trace minnerals. They are very important and I think more are absorbed through the skin than previously thought. A person would feel better if they were deficient and recieved them. They would also feel worse when they are getting too much which could explain the flucuations in effect. I would rotate the use of anything that seems to have an effect until sure.
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zendevil Posted Mar 12, 2004
definitely something in it. Magnetic stuff rules the waves: etc.
As far as mineral supplements are concerned, i am on mega doses of Vitamin B1 & B6, which definitely helpthe de myelin stuff. Being vegetarian, i am almost certainly deficient in these.
I have often been stopped going through the detectors at airports, i set them off, it is highly embarassing! When they drag me off & search me, they find nothing of course! i worry these days about this, since with all the "New Wave" terrorism, I might well be in for unpleasantness, especially since i have lived in the Middle East & Pakistan. Oh well, not planning on doing much travelling in the near future anyway!
zdt
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Mar 12, 2004
I finally got thru the last time without sounding alarms.
I was going to demand an xray if it continued. I would have been convinced there was something metal left in me during surgery.
Did you get any shrapnel(sp?) in you when around the fighting while teaching in the M. East?
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Mar 12, 2004
Mort there was an article on aol about dogs in Boston being electricuted walking over the metal grates on sidewalks. It is happening more due to the immense amount of wiring done under the sidewalks. Some of it has been due to sloppy work. A few people have felt it too but not died like the furry 4 footed.
I wondered if you have seen animals in the vet office with that trauma.
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zendevil Posted Mar 12, 2004
It must be even worse for s! since they are usually smaller.
No shrapnel, so far being shot at is one of the few things that hasn't happened to me! We did have a cruise missile land in the school playground, but it didn't go off...so that was OK. They aren't as big as i imagined!
zdt
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Willem Posted Mar 14, 2004
Hello everybody! I just want to say that I'm here, and listening. This forum is becoming quite interesting! Sorry to hear about the electrocuted dogs ...
Mort, I'm also sorry to hear about your grandmother! I lost both mine when they were quite young. My dad's mom died when I was 2 years old ... my mom's mom died when I was about 14. My dad's dad died before I was born, and my mom's dad when I was about 7. But anyways you have my sympathy...
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Willem Posted Mar 14, 2004
... Sorry ... is 'sympathy' the right word, the best word? I mean 'I feel with you ...' empathy? Compassion? The bottom line I am sad to hear that you may lose your grandmother and I wish you strength for your hard time.
- Willem
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Mort - a middle aged Girl Interrupted Posted Mar 14, 2004
Thankyou everybody for your kind words. I was very upset about it. I have put it out of my mind which is the only way I can cope until I hear the dreadful news. I thought about going down but there are other issues too, and although I want to hop on a train to see her and I may regret it forever, I can't at the moment.
It has also brought up something with bm, but I will speak more later about that - suffice to say that she said that I have always been a part of her life and I will always be her daughter just as much as my half sister.
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Mar 14, 2004
I think my email is not working right either.
Have you tried to send me email Terri?
*waits for Mort*
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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Mar 15, 2004
Sorry Mort - I missed a post.
Take care of yourself.
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