h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Me again. I just noticed that Indefinite Antecedent Man had struck again:

"Cortes brought back some of these Mexican seeds (after destroying Montezuma and his court)
which were planted in Africa on their way home" Whose way home? The seeds were planted on their way home? In Africa? Africa wasn't their home. Their home was Central America. Where they going back? See my point?

Anhaga - I think looking at your points is going to have to wait until the weekend as I believe further digging seems to be in order. That said....

Hath
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Hey, I'm just trying to help. Take your time. I think it's a great subject!

Other than the recipe for Mexican Hot Chocolate, this entry is just a poor repeat of the first part of the existing Edited Entry on chocolate, A177059, so I don't think it is suitable at all.

Perhaps if you took all the history out, since it is better covered in the existing entry, and just leave the recipe, rename the whole thing and we might have a worthwhile entry.

Sorry to be discouraging. It is always a good idea to see what is already in the guide before starting on a new entry.

Gnomon, I did suggest cutting to just the recipe already, with a link to Chocolate.

The Entry must have that link, as Researchers will probably want the further information, but as Hath indicated the existing Edited Entry is principally on solid chocolate.

So I think there should be space for the possibly more esoteric appreciation of purely drinking the 'food of the gods' (with or without gold cups)

Possibly this can only be justifed with a more encyclopaedic entry which does delve into the perversities of 'instant drinking chocolate' and why you should avoid it.

So what are you going to do Hath - demolish or build?

Pimms

Pimms I am still reeling from Gnomons comments to be honest Quite frankly I am not sure I will bother as it was never intended as an entry in its own rights... but I think I will hold fire on making a dicission until I am in a somewhat better frame of mind.

Think it will be a friday/weekend decission.

Hath
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Hath, sorry to hear that you are reeling! If you think that your entry really adds to what's in the existing Chocolate entry, you could try for an update. This would involve you:

a) contacting the authors of the original entry and getting permission from them
b) rewriting your entry to be a combination of the existing entry and your new one
c) submitting it as an update - I can't remember which review forum updates go into

updates go through PR like everything else but I'm told they aren't eligable for the front page. I've got an update pending right now. I don't remember exactly how I brought it to the attention of the powers that be, but there is an "update centre" around here somewhere.

The Update Centre is in the process of being retired and Anna has introduced a new system, which is as I outlined it above. The only detail I can't remember is which workshop is used, and Anna specifically didn't want it to be Peer Review.

You're right, updates will be treated as a new version of the original entry, so they will not appear on the front page.

oh, sorry Gnomon. I have a dim memory now that something was being changed about updating. The trip through Peer Review is what my "Canada" update had to make, and torturous it was!

You trip through Peer Review was only tortuous because you Canadians wouldn't stop talking about yourselves!

Gnomon s - I put the unintended 'harshness' (maybe even just read by me) down to the fact that you are still abstaining from the wonderful substance for a couple of more weeks. It is a bit like my getting tetchy this weekend about computer games. I appreciate the possitive comments though which actually suggested a way forward.

Anyway - I think there is a line to be drawn between chocolate - solid, and chocolate - beverage. In fact the more I think about it the more I think it deserves a larger write up all of its own and will probably need to be a colaborative effort. It could even include cold chocolate drinks if it heads that way!

I am definately not going to just make it a recipe entry as I feel the bit before about how it used to be made absolutely fascinating.

So Pimms - thank you for putting so well what I was in no frame of mind to say the other day. Despite the recomendation that this becomes an entry in its own right I think we should expand this into a bigger beastie.

*Heard echoing down the long corridors of Peer Review "Guys...... Guys.... you still there? I said 'we'.... I need your help... guys?"*

Hath
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Hath, I thought I'd save you a bit of time, below are the four best sites for a more detailed history of that I could find (I don't know if you've already researched any of these):

http://www.chocolatemonthclub.com/chocolatehistory.htm (excellent timeline 1830 is apparently the date to say solid made incursions into the history of drinking chocolate)

http://www.chocolatesource.com/history/index.asp (very brief timeline history, but may confirm other sources)

http://www.cadbury.ie/chocolate1.asp (this is only about six pages, but quite informative - e.g. how many cocoa beans a pumpkin cost in the Mayan civilization)

http://www.fmnh.org/Chocolate/history_mesoamerican.html (this has at least a couple of dozen short pages covering the same set of aspects re at various periods)

Pimms

Hey PIMMs thank you very much for doing that.
I am still sorting out college stuff but will
most certainly digest these links when I get
some serious time to spare.

I'll say it one more time because it was a
great surprise:

Thank you



Hath
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Thanks for the appreciation Hath , it made me

You'll still need to do all the work of threshing out the chaff.

Pimms

yup thats a post exam challenge for me and I will be ready for it then

Hath
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Thanks for everyones comments to date.
I hope you come back again when it is rewritten


Hath
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I like chocolate!