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Baron Grim

Entry: Alan Smithee: Director... Sort of - A1007759
Author: Count Zero (MosquitoFinder Persuivant and Straitener of phone cords) - U69725

Hope you like it. I would especially like to hear any suggestions for links to other Guide articles.
smiley - ta


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McKay The Disorganised

Like it. smiley - ok


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Number Six

Fascinating!


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J

This is very interesting! It's good to come about an interesting entry in the midst of purely informative ones.

smiley - oksmiley - cheers

smiley - blacksheep


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Baron Grim

I'm having a lot of fun trying to find a DVD copy of AASFBHB. Here's the conversation when I go to the store. "Yes, I'm looking for a particular particularly bad movie... you probably don't have it...."


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Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

Marvellous article, brilliantly written. I always wondered how AS kept on getting more work considering how he invariably turned out such crap films smiley - winkeye
Just as a matter of interest, Stephen King petitioned to have his name taken off the credits of Lawnmower Man (now the're one which should never have got out of the garden shed). So what name do they use in the case of a disaffected scriptwriter/author?

fm


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Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

PS: have you seen Blake Edwards' 'S.O.B.'? That has a very similar plot to An Alan Smithee Film etc.


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sprout

excellent entry smiley - cheers

Sprout


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Smij - Formerly Jimster

Director Tony Kaye attempted to get his name removed from American History X after he'd been refused final cut of the movie (or, more accurately, after he'd spent 18 months supposedly editing the footage together and still hadn't delivered a final cut). The film was taken off him and (according to many sources) re-edited by the star of the film, Edward Norton. Outraged at this situation, Kaye took out an advert in industry mag Variety moaning about how he'd been treated, and then approached the Directors' Guild of America to have his name taken off the picture. Unfortunately for him, there's a Director's Guild rule that states that directors who want to use pseudonyms (such as 'Alan Smithee') must not talk about why they've had their name removed.

Kaye's later demands to have the film attributed to 'Humpty Dumpty' were also dismissed.

Cracking entry, by the way. Take a look at your American spellings though - British-English spellings are preferred. smiley - smiley


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Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

I can just see all the Scouts circling for their upcoming feeding frenzy. Pity I've had my three picks smiley - sadface


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Baron Grim

I've been ill a few days so to respond in order...

Felonious Monk, I didn't know that about Lawnmower Man, but it doesn't surprise me. I think he was somewhat successful at removing his name from The Running Man, not that it mattered for either since everyone knew he wrote the stories, (well the stories the movies were VERY loosely based on.) As far as writing credits, I don't know that there is a standard nom de plume. The only other standard I found was "George Spelvin" for actors in the theatre.
As far as S.O.B. goes... I love that movie. I once loaned a copy to a friend and he returned it after only seeing about 5 minutes... you know the pollywollydoodle dance number. He said it was the worst movie he'd ever seen. Can you imagine my smirk when I handed it back and told him he had to try it again with some patience? Of course it was bad... that was the point. smiley - laugh


Jimster, I didn't know about American History X's (great flick BTW) bid for smitheeness. During my research I did find a couple of other movies that directors bid to be smithee'd. For instance Michael Mann wanted the TV edit of Heat to remove his name. As far as the non publicity clause, they seem to apply it on a case by case basis. Taking out a full page add definitely crosses the lines, but I know that David Lynch wasn't exactly quiet in his bid. I don't know if Hiller actually WENT to the press, but there was more press about his bid for removal than any other movie I know of. Of course that was surely because the irony was too obvious for the Hollywood press to ignore.
Oh, and I apollyologise for the American spellings. I try, but it's hard to change after 30 plus years. If anyone would be so kind as to just give me a list of the British spellings of misspelled words, I'll make the changes.

Thanks All smiley - cheers


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Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

make the changes quickly! I've got my eye on this one smiley - smiley


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Baron Grim

I've made some spelling and grammatical changes but I'm going to need some help with UK spellings. I've even tried to spellcheck it through Word, but my version only has English(US). It lets me change to English(UK) but doesn't actually use it to spellcheck. (I hate gates.)smiley - grr


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Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

leave it up to the sub-eds if you can't sort out yourself. Believe me, the spelin is the wurst thing abowt this fain artikkl.


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Baron Grim

kewl


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Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

Oh, that's so 20th century! smiley - winkeye


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Baron Grim

WOOHOOsmiley - oksmiley - biggrinsmiley - coolsmiley - bubbly


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J

smiley - bubbly it deserved it. smiley - cheers

Good work! You'll excuse me not mentioning the name of the person who wrote this, I just got home...

smiley - blacksheep


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J

Okay, CountZero, good job.

smiley - blacksheep


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