A Conversation for Time - Concepts and Perceptions
Time doesn't exist
Gibbo Started conversation Jan 13, 2002
Our belief that time flows is simply a quirk of our nervous system, in that, we can view events as occurring in the order in which they occured. Time, in fact, is not going anywhere or doing anything. That is why time travel is impossible. When you think of a past time or a future time you think of it as a destination which, of course, it is not.
For example, 5 minutes ago you were sitting at your computer. Now say you want to go back to that time. You can't because you haven't travelled anywhere since then. You've remained in the same place, and of couse you can't travel somewhere if that's where you are. Likewise if you want to travel 5 minutes into the future you can't because you're not actually going anywhere.
Then again, if you want to travel 5 minutes into the the future you should probably just learn to wait. It'll do you good.
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Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... Posted Jan 14, 2002
Maybe time is going somewhere - maybe it's continually disappearing up it's own backside, and that's why it just LOOKS like it's not going anywhere
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Tempest (Keeper of the Nocturnal Storm) Midnight Posted May 2, 2002
Au Contraire.
Time travel is still a definite possibility for time is not in the 3rd dimension, but is rather the fourth. Therefore, if space is lateral, then time is vertical and slices through at every location and 'moment'.
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Time is a destination, one just has to travel in a manner that we usually don't. You have to find a way to go up and down, instead of just side to side.
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Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... Posted May 2, 2002
"You have to find a way to go up and down, instead of just side to side."
My biggest problem is that the only place I seem to be going is "round the twist"
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Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... Posted May 2, 2002
Welcome to h2g2 BTW - As you havent activated your personal space I have posted to this entry to say Hello. If you would like people to "pop in" please write something in your personal space so that we can leave messages.
I have made a "Hints and Links for New Researchers" page at <./>A719840</.> - if you go there it will lead you to all sorts of places which will help find your way around and get to know this wonderful place
It should keep you busy for a while I am sure that you will love this community as much as we do There's lots of things to see, clubs to join and people to meet - please don't be shy - just jump right in - this is a friendly place. But be careful - it can become quite addictive - believe me I know
Enjoy!!
Have fun!!!
and above all DON'T PANIC!!!
Feisor
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Researcher 193852 Posted May 3, 2002
Of course time exists, if it hadn't everyting would happend at the same time. Simpel and true.
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Dave DeRock Posted Jul 10, 2002
All that your statement proves is that our recollection/records of previous events, exists.
Our "use" of time is a way of tracking the Earth's rotation & orbit around the sun in a way that allows us to co-ordinate with each other.
Then again time must exist, because I have some on my hands now.
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Siletta Weaver, Keeper of exsessively long titles, Eclectic Mystic, Cynic, etc.. Posted Jul 22, 2002
HOw do you know that everything isn't hapening simultaneously and we just, incorectly, percieve it as hapening sequencially?
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Dave DeRock Posted Jul 28, 2002
Ok then, how is it that we have to wait for a bus, if everything happens simultaneously, why isn't there always a bus at the bus stop?
Also how can we travel?
If velocity = distance/time & time doesn't exist then neither does speed & distance, as anything multiplied or divided by zero = zero (or division by zero error).
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Siletta Weaver, Keeper of exsessively long titles, Eclectic Mystic, Cynic, etc.. Posted Jul 30, 2002
We don't travel, we just decieve ourselves into thinking we do.
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Wizso Posted Aug 3, 2002
I'm pretty sure one of the consequenses of relativity is that time travel is possible, when traveling at speeds comperable to the speed of light. If someone took a spaceship to a distant star at, say, 99% of the speed of light, it would take them a short time to get to the star, but when the person got back to earth many years would have passed. This person would have then traveled into the future of all the people that stayed on the earth.
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manda1111 Posted Aug 6, 2002
Sorry to butt in on your conversation, but if
Researcher 193852
Researcher Wizso
would go back to there own page and then click on the "EDIT PAGE" button and then write a little something about your self then a ACE can come and welcome you there properly
Sorry for interrupting your conversation
Manda
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hancetharakan Posted Aug 18, 2006
space-time-matter illusion
it has been for a long time supposed that space is constant and time is the one which is varying…. That is at the same space assumed every one believes that at diiferent times things or happenings or events occurs successively…. The alternative thinking….. assume there is no concept of time …ok ….no present no past and no future … ok everything happened at the same instant …and that which is varying is the space ….. space only…. So time-space-matter diagram reduces to a two dimensional space-matter diagram…everything happened simelteneously at different spaces and the illusion of mind combines these all spaces to a common level and produces an illusion …. Yes the greatest illusion the human history ever trying to answer….. yes , the time…. So now onwards leave the time axis./….ok…all events are instants or stills …. Nothing is moving ….everything in a state of rest from very begning to very end… yes through out the spectrum … I mean the spectrum of virtuality…and nothing is changing ….literally nothing… everything in a stae of ultimate rest…..this u can assumelike dividing a movie in to small fragments of still photos… and so the way it is……and so u got answer to u r every querries ok…..
finally everything at same instant… at different spaces…..
And so I am ready for the second edition
tight u r seat belts…. And hold on firmly… so that u wont suffer much….ok.
in my first edition I speak about the concept of time.. that’s there is nothing termed time …. And it’s the space and matter that exists..
how this possible? I will explain . actually there are a lot of spaces available. Then the qn wat is the term space implies… space is nothing but an instant of the
entire universe…. To make the thing more clear suppose everything u saw , touch and feel stops unconditionally…. That means no movement for anything .. everything in astand still pause…
this instant is one space…. So space contains matter……. Only matter… and more complicated is the case that ther are different such spaces available…. Independent of each other
that means at the same instant there are lot of spaces… it counts to billions and billions…. And it is the concept of simelteneous space…. Otherwise the concept of constant time and
varying ( varying does not mean moving) still spaces…..
and how do we feel like we are living wen there is only some spaces and spaces contains only matter? At this point this is impossible……. But here comes the great saviuor
termed ‘ energy’ ….. at this point for u r convenience I wont define wat is energy ….. our friend energy is in a propogating state… the begning of energy is a very big story… I will explain it in coming editions…..how this energy propagating? Simple answer is that it propagate from one space to another space…. From which space to which space ….????? Yes for that ther is a simple algorithm available…energy propagate from one space to another which has got minimum difference in their OTSC(Overall Three Dimension Structural Coefficient)….. for every space available there is a constant value for OTSC… the by which OTSC can be calculated will also be explained in the coming edition….. so energy propagation makes the feeling that we are living and living in the present…. Past is the one from which energy is coming..and future is the one which energy is going…..although future is existing ( and so the past) as spaces even at this moment it seems like not because enrgy is not there… yes energy is associated with one space at once….
If u can make the difference of OTSC to a reduced value between any two spaces assumed, we can move over to that space… and it make illusion of the time that we are at that time….. and so by this way time travel is also possible….. even if it is very difficult to realize
This calculation , that is finding the probability for minimum OTSC diffrerence between spaces is adopted by the foretellers( I mean jyothisham and such other things)……..is it clear to u…if u have any doubts then don’t hesitate to ask… since doubts are the first step for learning…….
Anyway ENJOY………………………………
Time doesn't exist
Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... Posted Aug 18, 2006
That's all too much for me to take in tonight
I'll read it again when I'm feeling more alert
Welcome to h2g2 BTW - I'll leave an ACE Welcome on your space which will guide you about a bit
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Time doesn't exist
- 1: Gibbo (Jan 13, 2002)
- 2: Zak T Duck (Jan 13, 2002)
- 3: Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... (Jan 14, 2002)
- 4: Tempest (Keeper of the Nocturnal Storm) Midnight (May 2, 2002)
- 5: Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... (May 2, 2002)
- 6: Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... (May 2, 2002)
- 7: Researcher 193852 (May 3, 2002)
- 8: Dave DeRock (Jul 10, 2002)
- 9: Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... (Jul 11, 2002)
- 10: Siletta Weaver, Keeper of exsessively long titles, Eclectic Mystic, Cynic, etc.. (Jul 22, 2002)
- 11: Dave DeRock (Jul 28, 2002)
- 12: Siletta Weaver, Keeper of exsessively long titles, Eclectic Mystic, Cynic, etc.. (Jul 30, 2002)
- 13: Wizso (Aug 3, 2002)
- 14: Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... (Aug 5, 2002)
- 15: manda1111 (Aug 6, 2002)
- 16: hancetharakan (Aug 18, 2006)
- 17: Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... (Aug 18, 2006)
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