A Conversation for Stargate SG-1 - the TV Show
Apollyon - Grammar Fascist Started conversation Nov 15, 2002
At the end of Season 5, Daniel was killed by radiation poisoning but Jack helped him 'ascend' to a higher plain of existance, although he did come back in literally ghost form when a sequence of events involving an Antarctican corpse and a Tok'ra led to his (Jack's)capture. He was replaced with Jonas Davis, an alien who was exiled from his homeworld for non-conformist opinions that somewhat similar to Daniel's own. Also, Daniel's wife's name is spelled Sha'rui, not Sha're (but is pronounced Sharay). Sok'har (note the spelling) took the role of Satan, and tended to use as servants Uunases, the demonesqe original hosts of the Goa'uld. A discovery in Antarctica hints that humans may be genetically similar to the Ancients, the guys who built the Stargates, but who are now nowhere to be found. The Russians had a second Stargate at one point, but our heroes had to send it into the sun to help repel a Goa'uld invasion. There were actually two Stargate movies, with Sam and Teal'c appearing in the second, not the pilot episode. Finally, you completely omitted Katherine, the leader of the team that originally discovered the Stargate. Still, this is a great entry for a kick-ass series.
Sho - gainfully employed again Posted Nov 15, 2002
Daniel was killed by the effects of too much radiation,but it was Oma Desala who helped him ascend (apparently against her race's "prime directive") - Jack merely told Jacob the Tok'ra to cease his attempts to heal him.
There is some discussion that the corpse in the episode Frozen was one of the Ancients - but I hope not since they bumped her off rather quickly.
Jonas' name, btw, is Jonas Quinn. Which to lots of fans doesn't sound as exotic as the actor's real name of Corin Nemec.
FYI: regarding the TV show the accepted spelling is Sha're which is different from the Shau'ri (I think) that was used in the film. Sokar is how they spell Sok'har (leaving out glottal stops where they are usually accepted, and putting them in where they don't appear to be needed is something the writers of the show do all the time)
And Unases? eek that sounds bulky, some of us have been discussing this endlessly on Stargate message boards, and have never come up with a satisfactory answer!!
Second Stargate movie? I'd be interested to see that, but have never heard of it.
And I can't believe we left Katherine out... and this was in Peer review for a week or two.
*hangs head in shame at the omission*
Thanks for the compliment though!
Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Nov 23, 2002
What Frozen really seemed to be suggesting was the humans - or human-like lifeforms - evolved a great many times. Which would a) suggest some manner of interference, and b) explain why the Nox and Aris Boch's race are essentially human in appearance; as the Asgard seem to have been way back when.
Sok'har would be a very unusual spelling. Sokar or Sokaris is the commonly accepted version, although in conventionally Egyptology, Seker is often preferred.
On a related point, although fandom seems to have settled on Amaunet as the accepted spelling of the name of Apophis' Queen, official sources seem to go with Ammonet. Now, Ammonet is a feminine counterpart of Amon or Amun, the primordial god later conflated with Re/Ra as Amon-Ra/Amon-Re. Did she and Ra used to date, one wonders?
The Gate that went into the sun was the Gate from Vorash. The original Earth Gate (the Antarctic or 'Beta' Gate) was hyperspaced off about half-way to Jupiter just before it exploded. Incidentally, this means that the Gate in the SGC, as of Season 6 - the one being 'rented' from the Russians - is the Giza (Alpha) Gate, so that for the first time in two Seasons the symbol shown in the credits and used in the title of Stargate SG-1 - the sun over the pyramid - is actually on the Gate they're travelling through.
To the best of my knowledge - and the IMDb's - there is only one Stargate Movie, although a second one - following on from the TV series - is planned for when it ends.
I'm prepared to go out on a limb and say it's one Unas, two Unas. The transcripts of Beast of Burden seem to bear this out.
As for Katherine not being in there. Well, as a certain Colonel might say: D'oh!
Apollyon - Grammar Fascist Posted Nov 24, 2002
There ARE 2 movies. Stargate is where Jack and Daniel go to Abydos and Daniel meets Sha'rui (watcha gonna do about it?). Stargate: The Second Mission is where Jack and Sam return to Abydos to rescue Daniel, and they also meet Teal'c here. I think this is also the one where they actually kill Ra, though I might be mistaken on that count. Oh, one other thing: there was once an alliance between the Asgard, Nox, Ancients, and another race whose name escapes me but began with F.
Sho - gainfully employed again Posted Nov 24, 2002
The Furlings. Pity you weren't around when this was in Peer Review.
It's a wonder it made the front page at all.
As to the second film/movie. Sorry to keep banging on about this but there is one original movie where Jack O'Neil and Daniel Jackson and the rest of the guys kill Ra. The one where they go back to Abydos, and meet Daniel, is the pilot episode (feature length because it's a two parter, often shown in one go without a break) called Children of the Gods. This is where they meet Teal'c and Doctor/Captain (later Major) Samantha/Sam Carter is introduced.
And I wouldn't hold your breath for a 2nd movie, despite the original crew talking about it. MGM hold all the rights, and now Season 7 (with return of Daniel Jackson as a regular and the reduction of Jonas Quinn to that of recurring role) has been confirmed I'm sure it will be at least a year before we hear anything.
Sho... who spends way too much time talking to people online about Stargate.
BTW: as to the spelling of Sha're. Look up at the title of the Guide Entry: Stargate SG-1 - The TV Series. In which Sha're is spellt
Apollyon - Grammar Fascist Posted Nov 28, 2002
Sho - gainfully employed again Posted Nov 28, 2002
Once more. Just so we're clear.
We know that in the film it's spelt differently. We wrote the entry about the TV series so we used their spelling... just like we spelt O'Neill with two Ls (the one with one L has no sense of humour, apparently)
Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Nov 28, 2002
Also, in the movie subtitles, it's spelt Sha'uri, but let's not split hairs over this.
Apollyon - Grammar Fascist Posted Dec 1, 2002
OK, we're done. Hey, aren't there 2 Us in Uunas?
Apollyon - Grammar Fascist Posted Dec 5, 2002
Right, you probably hat me for continually draggin this thing out, but I see a few problems with Daniel coming back full-time. Namely, he doesn't have a body. Now, while this wouldn't stop him from giving advice, he seems not to be allowed to actually interfere, plus the USAF is somewhat reluctant to hire people without corporeal presences, so are you absolutely SURE that Jonas will be relegated to recurring role?
Sho - gainfully employed again Posted Dec 5, 2002
Absolutely sure. The Stargate Powers the Be announced Daniel Jackson (presumably ascended, since Michael Shanks is signed up fort he whole season) will be a full time member of the team for S7. And that Jonas Quinn is going to be a recurring role, which could be anything from 6 or 7 to 18 or 19 eps, depending on what the writers do and what contract the actor Corin Nemec has signed.
If you want to find out more, come on over to Stargate online fandom...
follow the link to the forum and learn waaaaaaay more than you ever wanted about this programme!
And, btw, why would I hate anyone for wanting to discuss Stargate??
Apollyon - Grammar Fascist Posted Dec 13, 2002
I checked out Gateworld, but as it seems to contain rather a lot of spoilers, I'll just take your word for it. Still, one wonders how the PTB will get Daniel back in...
Oh BTW, you might be interested in A899670
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