A Conversation for John Williams - Film Composer
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Zebedee (still Pool God after all these years) Started conversation Aug 18, 2002
James Horner anyone?
And not exactly prolific (yet) but I'd say a good prediction for a future addition to the pantheon is David Arnold - Stargate SG-1, the recent Bond films....
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Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Aug 18, 2002
David Arnold is not on the list for a very good reason.
I forgot.
Yeah, mea maxima culpa. I really meant to put him in - I love the Stargate score, although I think it's only the main theme that's his on SG-1 - but it slipped my mind, then I was hitting the deadlines for the project.
I think that a second Composer's project, or perhaps a part B would be in order. As well as Arnold and Horner, Shifrin and Mancini could sustain entries of their own, and I'd be tempted to put in something on Wojacz Kilar and Trevor Jones, both of whom I'm rather partial to.
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Researcher 201064 Posted Aug 21, 2002
How about Trevor Jones - a British composer who has done some great scores...last of the mohicans, notting hill, arachnophobia, cliffhanger, in the name of the father, labrynth
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Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Aug 21, 2002
Yes. Trevor Jones. That's who I meant when I said Trevor Jones, you see.
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svabhava Posted Aug 21, 2002
hey, if you ever get started on part b, then give me a composer and i'll do another article. As regards James Horner, maybe he should be included but surely only in the event of him writing a good score, which he hasn't yet.
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Zebedee (still Pool God after all these years) Posted Aug 22, 2002
Have you seen Aliens? Don't tell me the music isn't perfect for the film. And if you don't like the film then try not to be biased when judging the music...
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Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Aug 22, 2002
I'm quite fond of the Braveheart score as well.
OK, so:
- James Horner (svabhava's objections noted)
- Trevor Jones (and let's not forget Dark Crystal and Dark City)
- Wojciech Kilar (assuming I can consistently spell his name right and find anything but Dracula that he scored)
- Lalo Shifrin
- David Arnold
- Henry Mancini
Maybe also:
- Howard Shore
- Basil Poledouris
- Michael Kamen (how many film composers can put a series of orchestral heavy metal settings on their resume?)
That's already as many again as the original project. Any more for any more?
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svabhava Posted Aug 24, 2002
I'll put my hand up for Shore, Arnold if no one else is desperate given he ties in with Barry and Alex North maybe (ok maybe spartacus is a bit cliched but still)
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Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Aug 24, 2002
Keen, but if you do Arnold the Stargate Overture has to be in the outstanding works, or...um...I'll feel cheated.
I'll take Jones, Poledouris and Kilar (The Ninth Gate; that's the other thing of his that I have!) then.
That leaves Mancini and Shifrin (either of whom I could probably pick up if need be), Horner and Kamen, plus anyone else anyone can think of.
If there's enough interest in this, then I can put it forward to the University as a new project or an expansion. Unless someone else wants to get themselves a Field Researcher's banner, in which case they can do the honours.
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted Aug 25, 2002
Vangelis (Chariots of Fire) and Alan Silvistri (Back to the Future, among other things)...
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Aug 25, 2002
Though I like James Horner and his works I must say, he could write some original music that is better. He seems to repeat his sam favorite parts in songs, Braveheart and Bicentennial man have many of the same passages in the, though they are different insturments... Casper is a good score that resembles no others that I can (so far) find. Titanic, well I havnt seen it but I dont really want to... The music I have heard, is ok, but just a typical James Horner. Apollo 13 was pretty good, I like the end theme. Swing kids, His music was outstanding in this movie, very dark and sinister, Oh and you know what? James Horner's music, it really contains my favorite things about movie music, to hard for me to explain here...
Alan Silvestri? Deffinately, I think he is my favorite composer, especially for The Abyss and CastAway, although in the trailer for CastAway they use a James Horner passage of music, It sends chills down my spine every time I hear it... it matches so well... anyway...
Enough for now...
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Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Aug 25, 2002
Pyrex; would you like to take on Horner then, since you seem to know his canon pretty well. And would you or Amy care to tackle Silvestri?
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Aug 25, 2002
Perhaps I will, Ok I will, give me a while to resurch him more, as I know mostly just his work in various movies, not so much his WHOLE life. Alan silvestri will have to be someone elses as I do not have the time for multiple people.
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted Aug 25, 2002
I'd love to do a writeup on Alan Silvestri... but when I have more time. Just got back to uni... will be busy and then some for the next 14 weeks.
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Chris Martin - Researcher 201856 Posted Aug 31, 2002
I'll vote for James Horner, Henry Mancini and Howard Shore.
How about Edward Shearmur? He's the man that did "Jakob the Liar" and "K-PAX"
Lalo Schifrin is a maybe. He's more of a TV-music composer than a Movie Composer.
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Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Aug 31, 2002
Cool Hand Luke, Bullitt, Kelly's Heroes, Dirty Harry (and most if not all of the sequels), Enter the Dragon, The Eagle has Landed, half-a-dozen Disney live-action flicks, The Amityville Horror; how is this not being a Movie Composer?
Lalo Schifrin has done a lot of TV work, but more than enough movies to qualify, especially since for my money he gets in on Bullitt alone. Ed Shearmur, I have to say I can't relly remember any of his stuff, and I only saw Reign of Fire a week ago.
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Chris Martin - Researcher 201856 Posted Sep 6, 2002
Wow..
I didn't realize he did Cool Hand Luke (an awesome movie), and the others.
I stand corrected
I said that becuase I only recognize him for his work with the MIssion:Impossible theme...
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Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) Posted Sep 6, 2002
He's a little like Alexander Courage in that respect; a single TV theme over-rides everything else he's ever done.
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- 1: Zebedee (still Pool God after all these years) (Aug 18, 2002)
- 2: Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) (Aug 18, 2002)
- 3: Researcher 201064 (Aug 21, 2002)
- 4: Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) (Aug 21, 2002)
- 5: svabhava (Aug 21, 2002)
- 6: Zebedee (still Pool God after all these years) (Aug 22, 2002)
- 7: Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) (Aug 22, 2002)
- 8: svabhava (Aug 24, 2002)
- 9: Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) (Aug 24, 2002)
- 10: Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. (Aug 25, 2002)
- 11: Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor (Aug 25, 2002)
- 12: Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) (Aug 25, 2002)
- 13: Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor (Aug 25, 2002)
- 14: Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. (Aug 25, 2002)
- 15: Chris Martin - Researcher 201856 (Aug 31, 2002)
- 16: Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) (Aug 31, 2002)
- 17: Chris Martin - Researcher 201856 (Sep 6, 2002)
- 18: Mr Prophet (General Purpose Genre Guru) (Sep 6, 2002)
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