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'relatives' of Dutch
Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Started conversation Sep 29, 2001
Could you perhaps add a few words about Africaans? 
'relatives' of Dutch
tdbiii Posted Oct 2, 2001
NO sorry, this is a project about The Netherlands. Afrikaans has very little to do with Dutch. Coming fro south africa I know afrikaans quite well. And while it does come from dutch it is not the same or very comparable. It would be like saying the latin and french are the same (which they aren't) I think that afrikaans has no place in this article sorry...
'relatives' of Dutch
Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Posted Oct 2, 2001
hmm, and what about adding just this clarification then?
'relatives' of Dutch
tdbiii Posted Oct 2, 2001
yeah but it has nothing to do with the article
as i said it is part of a project on the netherlands. from that pont of view it tells you that they speak dtuch in the netherlands. it is irrelevant if people on the other side of the world speak a language that has the same origins. It has nothing to do with the article.
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Hurtenflurst Posted Nov 13, 2001
Oooooh!! Touchy, or what? Maybe "Spitting Image" were right after all!
'relatives' of Dutch
Marjin, After a long time of procrastination back lurking Posted Nov 13, 2001
Let's try another one then.
In the extreme north-west of France, dutch used to be the local language, but the french government seems to be successful in killing it.
In school we learned about the french city of Rijssel, currently better known as Lille. There are more like that. Dunkirk, or in dutch, Duinkerken.
'relatives' of Dutch
tdbiii Posted Nov 14, 2001
Yeah well these people are really part of vlaanderen are they not (historically speaking).... And I did mention that it is spoken in vlaanderen (i think...)
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riotact : like a phoenix from the ashes Posted Jun 11, 2004
saying "the french government seems (present tense) to be successful in killing it" suggests that present day french attitude is hostile to the flemish language, which is untrue.
during the french revolution and the 19th century, vigorous measures were taken to suppress regional languages like occitan, breton, basque and alsatian. the trend in the 20th century has been the opposite. the southern "langues d'oc" were the first beneficiaries of this renewed interest in regional culture; in the cases of alsacian "heimetsproch", breton and flemish the process was retarded by the second world war but is the subject of great efforts today.
flemish is still the least healthy of these dialects, but the reason is not government policy. the fact is that massive immigration, notably from eastern europe, resulted in the original flemish stock becoming a minority in the northern industrial region of france. for more info see:
www.ned.univie.ac.at/nederlandistik/ files/de/ck/Frzflandern.pdf
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- 1: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Sep 29, 2001)
- 2: tdbiii (Oct 2, 2001)
- 3: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Oct 2, 2001)
- 4: tdbiii (Oct 2, 2001)
- 5: Hurtenflurst (Nov 13, 2001)
- 6: Marjin, After a long time of procrastination back lurking (Nov 13, 2001)
- 7: tdbiii (Nov 14, 2001)
- 8: riotact : like a phoenix from the ashes (Jun 11, 2004)
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