A Conversation for A Brief History of Greece

Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 1

sirXixo

Hahaha! Thats funny! What do they mean when they right that? So why exactly half of the churches in Greece were burned! I don't think it was frfom the hit! And they don't mention "pedomazoma", it means when they are gathering the children! (now you can imagine what it was happening after they gather them, I don't think they were taking them to disnayland). People are we crazy! We don't have to fill hatred, because I am sure the greeks did the same, but we can't forget history because we are never going to be responsible!
The Turks invated Greece and staied in Greece for 400 years. There was nothing nice in the whole situation! No you couldn't go out and speak freely, no you couldn't believe in anything else apart of Islam, no you were not a free citizen! In this 400 hundread years the population of Greece grew smaller and smaller! I don't think that people where feeling bad and where throwing them self's out of the window! IN iT?


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 2

Gnomon - time to move on

I don't think you're right. All the histories indicate that the Greeks were free to practise their Greek orthodox faith throughout Greece and Turkey until the 20th Century.


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 3

sirXixo

So how many orthodox churches are now operational in Turkey?


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 4

Gnomon - time to move on

None, as it says in the Brief History. After the First World War, the Greeks attacked Turkey. The Turks retaliated by evicting all people of the Greek orthodox religion from Turkey. The Greeks then evicted all people of Muslim religion from Greece.


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 5

sirXixo

So how come there are mosques in Athens and other areas of greece?
And the Greeks didn't attack turkey! There was a small place called smirni in turkey and it was populated by Greeks, back then the Turkey goverment was changing and they had Kemal, so there where riots and etc etc that was happening in turkey. Greece sent its army to protect Smirni, but when they where there they found the opportunity to go further and in Turkey! After a while, France and England told them to stop! And not to go further (because they where doing the same think) and the whole think ended up with the Burning of Smirni. Thousand of Greeks were salughtered and prosecuted out of smirni! After that the Greece and Turkey agreed to echange populations!


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 6

Gnomon - time to move on

The mosques in Athens and these places were until very recently empty. Usually they were used as museums.

The "agreement to exchange populations" was against the will of the people being "exchanged". It is more accurate to call it "ethnic cleansing".


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 7

sirXixo

Nope the mosques where not used as Museum, its against the constitution of Greece to use or sell a temple (any religion). So you can only use it as a temple! And ofcaurse the people was against it! They had to leave their homes!

Listen I am not against Turkey! I am against a country that is being rulled by generals! I am against a country the its citizes don't have basic human rights! I am against a country that they don't actually have politics they have propaganda! I am not saying that Greece is perfect! But Greece was like that 400 years ago! Not anymore! And also Turkey is not a country! Is a vast amount of land that it is populated by a lot of different ethnicities in order to feed and make rich who ever sits on the presidentail chair!


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 8

Gnomon - time to move on

I have been in mosques in Greece which were converted into museums. For example, the one in Monemvasia.


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 9

Gnomon - time to move on

Turkey is a country by the normal definition.

Turkey did not rule Greece ever. It was the Ottoman Empire which ruled Greece. That's a different thing. I am neither for nor against Turkey - I'm only trying to report the history as it actually was.


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 10

sirXixo

It might not be a mosque! I don't know about the one in monevasia! But in Athens there are mosques and most of them are operating! And the ones that are not operating are not been converted in Museums! Maybe they had a historical value or something! But again you are not allow to convert it!


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 11

Gnomon - time to move on

But the plan to build the first mosque in Athens since Ottoman rule was only approved by the Greek government in 2006! Is it finished yet?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5190256.stm


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 12

Gnomon - time to move on

"There are mosques dating from Ottoman times in the old part of Athens known as Plaka. The Fethiye or victory mosque dates back to 1458. But today these buildings are for tourists not for Muslim prayers. One is now a museum of Greek folk art.

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Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 13

sirXixo

Were do you find this thinks?

It is not true! I lived in athens for many years!


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 14

sirXixo

If you are reading it from the page of the BBC its not acurate!


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 15

sirXixo

And why do you believe that an empire could hold a country for 400 years by playing nice?


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 16

sirXixo


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 17

Gnomon - time to move on

I believe you have a very warped view of Greek history. I would rather believe a BBC reporter in Athens reporting on a new development for Greek Muslims than take your view.

I never said the Turks played nice. There's no doubt they enforced their Empire on its subjects.


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 18

sirXixo

Can I ask your ethnic ID


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 19

sirXixo

So for example you are saying that BBC its completely objective! Like the documentarie they had lost month about britain in the war with Fauklands!


Although the Greeks would describe the 400 years of Turkish rule as slavery, they were in fact treated quite well. The Turks were ruthless in war, but in peace they favoured a pluralist society, and were prepared to allow their Greek 'subjects' to do as t

Post 20

sirXixo

I don't think it sais anything on the BBC webpage that the Island never belong to england! Or that actually sent thousand to die because Thutcher wanted to become more rich! Or even that Fauklands actually belong to argetinians, hmmm, maybe because its outside of their country! Or the main population are argetinians!


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