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Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat Started conversation Oct 15, 2001
I's interesting to note that the book of Revelation actually doesn't talk about hell:
"[People worthy of hell]--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulphur. This is the second death." (Revelation 21:8 (NIV))
As far as I can tell, this means that hell isn't somewhere you get eternal, but excruciating, life, but eternal death, which is quite different. So all those Popes saying that heretics would go to hell and suffer forever were technically liars.
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Nov 3, 2001
Actually, hell is a knock at the door two minutes after you've finally gotten the two-year-old to take a nap after sixteen and a half hours of activity.
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spook Posted Nov 21, 2001
Whenit says that satan will get chucked into the lake of burning sulphur it says that that is where he will suffer forever, so hell is a place where you feal pain forever.
spook
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Kaz Posted Nov 21, 2001
I must read Paradise Lost one day, I believe it is meant to clarify everything, although from a Christian point of view. Do all religions have a hell?
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Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Nov 27, 2001
Yes, well, it was once believed that idiots were chosen by God to make normal people aware of the blessedness of their condition. Thus, it was also believed that idiots were blessed because they were suffering in order to do God's will.
Now in the case of a twit, which is so close to two of my favorite words that my hands sweat as I type it, we find a situation where the normal people say,"There, but for the grace of God, goes someone I would drive over if I weren't worried about the finish of my car." Of course, the Buddhists and the Shintoists believe that it is possible for a car to be blessed (one finds vestiges of this in the west with Herbie, the Love Bug, and Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang), so it is possible that the lot of the car is to suffer from encountering a twit and thus it has blessed the world and is blessed itself. Whether or not God blesses anything about the twit is a topic for another millenium.
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Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat Posted Nov 29, 2001
Whoops! It does indeed say that.
Then what is this 'second death'?
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spook Posted Nov 29, 2001
The first death is when you die on Earth. The second death is the death of the spirit. Once you have suffered the second death your soul goes to hell, and there is no escape from hell.
spook
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Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat Posted Nov 30, 2001
But if your spirit dies, how can it then be tormented?
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spook Posted Nov 30, 2001
Whether there is a difference between the spirit and the soul could be a point of debate, but a very pointless one. I think that the second death probably refers to the death we suffer on the New Earth (Revelation 21) when everyone is judged.
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the other omylouse "multiply (1*6) by (6*1+0+3)!" Posted Nov 30, 2001
my mates got a gud book all about that, ie what happens 2 us whhen we die. its quite a goog read but i dont like the fact that it says all non-christians go 2 hell & all christians heaven. that bit bothers me. its wrong.
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spook Posted Nov 30, 2001
I must break the news that that statement is true. "Jesus said 'I am the way, the trith, and the live. No one comes to the father except through me." (John 14v6 (I think)) That practically says that you are either a Christian, with Jesus, and can get to heaven, or you're not, and you can't. I always consider it that Christianity is a do or die religion, and all the others aren't. For most other religions, as long as you're a good person, you will get to their good afterlife. For Christianity, you have either chosen the correct route to heaven, or you haven't. It may sound a bit disciminant against other religions, but to God these other people are just worshipping idols like in the oldtestament. My view is that Christianity is a brilliant religion for guaranteeing your future after death, as being a Christian means you are supposed to be a good person, which is good enough for most religions if they are right, and if Christianity is right then you are saved. To me, that makes Christianity win win.
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- 1: Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat (Oct 15, 2001)
- 2: Tonsil Revenge (PG) (Nov 3, 2001)
- 3: spook (Nov 21, 2001)
- 4: Kaz (Nov 21, 2001)
- 5: Tonsil Revenge (PG) (Nov 22, 2001)
- 6: Kaz (Nov 22, 2001)
- 7: the other omylouse "multiply (1*6) by (6*1+0+3)!" (Nov 25, 2001)
- 8: Kaz (Nov 27, 2001)
- 9: the other omylouse "multiply (1*6) by (6*1+0+3)!" (Nov 27, 2001)
- 10: Tonsil Revenge (PG) (Nov 27, 2001)
- 11: the other omylouse "multiply (1*6) by (6*1+0+3)!" (Nov 28, 2001)
- 12: Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat (Nov 29, 2001)
- 13: spook (Nov 29, 2001)
- 14: the other omylouse "multiply (1*6) by (6*1+0+3)!" (Nov 29, 2001)
- 15: Kaz (Nov 30, 2001)
- 16: Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat (Nov 30, 2001)
- 17: the other omylouse "multiply (1*6) by (6*1+0+3)!" (Nov 30, 2001)
- 18: spook (Nov 30, 2001)
- 19: the other omylouse "multiply (1*6) by (6*1+0+3)!" (Nov 30, 2001)
- 20: spook (Nov 30, 2001)
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