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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 17, 2004
Do you really think I'm the kind of person to care about what's cool?
TV here is probably even worse than there...
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Arisztid Lugosi Posted Sep 17, 2004
hmmm.... i wouldnt know about that..
just yesterday i heard someone talking about how much they love that stupid show where the family members are so embarassed by what one of their raltions looks like they enter them in this show. and that person gets totally made over. and told how ugly they were before!!! thats jsut so stupiud!
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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 17, 2004
That's exactly why I don't watch TV.
I wish people would learn that people need to be beautiful on the inside in order to be beautiful on the outside, not the other way around.
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Sep 17, 2004
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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 17, 2004
Yep fair enough. Can't say I'd blame you, really...
See, why can't people in televisionland be as smart as us?
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Sep 17, 2004
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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 17, 2004
Programs are people too?!!
Or do you mean the people who /make/ the programs?
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I like my version better... next time I go to a greenpeace rally I might have to take a placard saying "programs are people, too!".... I've already heard of one saying: "Hell no! We won't... rhyme?"
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Sep 17, 2004
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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 17, 2004
Oh I see, I misunderstood. I thought you meant "People who are like these programs," not: "People /do/ like these programs."
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Lord Job Boron. That's Lord Job Boron To You! Posted Sep 17, 2004
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Arisztid Lugosi Posted Sep 18, 2004
"I wish people would learn that people need to be beautiful on the inside in order to be beautiful on the outside, not the other way around."
i agree totally!
.. so you'd like me even if i was fat and ugly?
i really cant understand why anyone would want to watch that ...umm i'll not say it here... its not a polite word.
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Lord Job Boron. That's Lord Job Boron To You! Posted Sep 19, 2004
I'm not shallow or anything but surely you couldn't get in a functioning relationship with someone you weren't attracted too physically. You have to have the best of both worlds. Same applies to personality. You could like someone as a friend but not in a relationship.
Or maybe I'm talking through my A**e. I don't know I haven't had any really functioning relationships so what am I talking about.
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Arisztid Lugosi Posted Sep 20, 2004
hmm.. yes i'd like the answer to that as well...
i've been thinking about that lately.
i've met this guy... actually hes been a friend of mine for quite a while, but i never really talked to him, we jsut hung out with the same people...
anyways, now that i've started talking to him, i've discovered hes totally a different person than i thought he was, hes really sweet.
but i'm not attracted to him physically... and apparently he'd as me out if he thought i'd say yes...
so i'm really confused about that...
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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 20, 2004
"...you'd like me even if I was fat and ugly?" That's kind of a moot point, isn't it? You're not fat... and I wouldn't care even if you were, and you can't be ugly on the outside unless you were /already/ ugly on the inside. And if you were ugly on the inside, which you're not, then I wouldn't be talking to you anyway... no matter what you look like!
So yes, I will like you no matter what.
But it /is/ kinda like saying "Would you still like me if I were an alien?" ... You're /not/ an alien, you will never /be/ an alien, and even if you hypothetically /were/ an alien, then you would be the kind of alien I could get along with, because you'ld be so essentially human!
"...you couldn't get in a functioning relationship with someone you weren't attracted too physically." True... but this depends on the nature of the relationship. Sex /is/ an important factor in most committed, long-term relationships. And you can't have sex with someone you're not physically attracted to. (Well, okay... /usually/. I suppose /some/ people are pretty good at pretending. )
But remember there are different types of relationship; for example there are emotional attachments which can have zero physical component to them... like online friendships. I know you mean the classical 'boy meets girl' type relationship, but that /is/ just a generalisation, and there are lots of ways to get around various inaccuracies in description.
Then again, perhaps I'm talking out of my a**e too... the last functional relationship I had, we saw each other for three weeks before things fell apart (not our fault). The last functional relationship before that was also the first decent one... and I wouldn't really call that 'functional'... not functional as such... sort of more driving along without realising yet that the axle has broken.
"...he's been a friend of mine for quite a while...apparently he'd ask me out if he thought I'd say yes..." See what happens. In your case it may not matter that you're not physically attracted to him. Perhaps he just wants more of your company? Who knows? Just play it by ear, and do what seems like a good idea at the time. Same as everyone /ever/ does. Hope it works out well. And if worst comes to worst, I hope you can stay friends with him.
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Arisztid Lugosi Posted Sep 20, 2004
"That's kind of a moot point, isn't it? You're...So yes, I will like you no matter what."
ok well it would be very easy for me to become fat... its not like you're born skinny and then you stay that way...
and besides, no matter what i look like theres always days when i wake up and look in the mirrior and think i might be fat and ugly.
"And if worst comes to worst, I hope you can stay friends with him"
we'll always be firends. ok.. well i just really hope we'll always be friends, because like i said he's a really sweet guy, and i dony know enough sweet people in RL.
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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 20, 2004
"...there's always days when I wake up and look in the mirror and think I might be fat and ugly." That's because you're female. EVERY female has days like that occasionally! That doesn't mean it's ever true!
"...I don't know enough sweet people in RL." Me neither. You sweet people are a rare breed, I wish I could find more of you in RL too.
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Lord Job Boron. That's Lord Job Boron To You! Posted Sep 20, 2004
OK well how about this then.
A hypothetical situation where someone very very spotty, oily, pig nosed or whatever asks you out. You've never talked to them but you know they aren't a bad person. What do you say?
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hellboundforjoy Posted Sep 21, 2004
Well if it were you JB, I'd say "yes" of course. Course I don't know if you're any of those things. And I've sort of talked to you so I suppose that doesn't count anyway. When it comes down to it I don't go out with people I've never talked to, ever. And I have often found people whom I know well and are conventionally unattractive or downright ugly very attractive because of knowing them.
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Lord Job Boron. That's Lord Job Boron To You! Posted Sep 21, 2004
Nope I'm not even a girl. Well maybe a bit spotty but it's almost gone now. Other wise none of the above.
I have felt that but with girls a b c d and e (see yesterday thread) I think my work is cut out for the moment!
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Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. Posted Sep 21, 2004
I agree with Hellbound; I wouldn't go out with somebody I've never spoken to. I'd rather get to know them first.
So I suppose in that case I'd admit to being flattered that she asked, and say well I don't really know you, but do you want to go out for coffee or something sometime?
Probably.
I also know what you mean about people who are conventionally unattractive, becoming attractive just by knowing them. Makes me think of one friend in particular, I first met her soon after she caught her fioncé cheating on her, got depressed, found solace in chocolate, got fat, cut her hair short, and tried to hook up with my ex-gf.
Apart from having those few (temporary) issues (well apart from hooking up with my ex; that wasn't really an issue, and as far as I know it's still happening, but /apart/ from that... ) She's a really nice person. Like, everybody I know who knows her can't think of a single negative thing about her, past the occasional comment that she doesn't really deserve to be so meek... I blame her ex.
My point here is that she's a really gorgeous person and I'm glad to call her my friend, but she's not at all conventionally attractive. Well, not any more, anyway.
Okay I'll shut up now.
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- 24: Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque (Sep 17, 2004)
- 25: Jerms - a Brief flicker and then gone again. (Sep 17, 2004)
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