h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

you suggested to take my issue out of that thread http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/F16034?thread=76493&post=109899695#p109899695 and into a personal space so here i am firstly... tho it is hard to figure out where to start when you showed up in that clown costume (tony curtis as your user name) i didnt know whether to laugh or cry it was surreal... like a cop coming home from a costume party but on the way dropping into another party to quell a domestic dispute (or somethin) anyway secondly... you told me to take it somewhere else, out of the 'public' thread but you were there with your two cents thirdly... the joke concerned the norway victims of the bombing and massacre and at the end, and what tipped the scales for me, he does the old '5... 4... 3..." countdown for an expected yikes and punctuates it with a so he knew it was not acceptable fourthly, it was there for 10 hours before i spotted it FOR 10 HOURS NOBODY ELSE YIKESED IT so i felt EVERYONE who had seen it needed to know that it was a very bad thing! more than just disappearing the thing needed to be shook around and the evil pointed out and you in your infinite acey wisdom come in from your party and pass judgement on someone (me) who is actually dealing with the problem instead of schmoosing around trying to prove to everyone how cool i am even tho i am an ace

I mean the PS of the person you yikes'd as you well know.

And I'm not "trying to be cool" hell, I think if I ever became cool the universe would implode. I was just attempting to diffuse what could have devolved into flaming and stuff AS IS PART OF MY REMIT AS AN ACE. If you're stomping around on a thread going "LOOK HOW RIGHTEOUS I AM, I HOPE YOU GET PILLORIED" do you think the someone who'd post a joke about the Norway victims (no, I don't want to know who it was, so don't tell me) would act with humility and say sorry or just start retaliating? Did you even consider the possibility that nobody had even read that thread in those ten hours? There's not many of us here right now and most of us aren't here all the time.

I did not see the joke. I have no means of seeing how long something has been there before it was Yikes'd.

You have an extremely skewed view of what the volunteers are/can do.

okay okay you made some good points
but ...well ...i think we push each others buttons because of that past 'thing'
you know... the Lord Wolfden thing

maybe this is a good time to explain one little thing
i dont want to get into the whole LW thing right now
i am not ready yet
but i think it really would ease alot of misunderstanding here
with me and the rest of the site
if i explain something

when i first signed up on h2g2 i was very excited about douglas adams
i had just discovered him
in my internet travels, before i got to h2g2, i found out he had died
i was devastated

anyway i show up here just before towel day
which i found out about on another site before i got here
and i started posting about it here

i had never been on a bulletin board before
i played scrabble on a site where we chatted
and chatted on another site too
but no bulletin board

so i didnt know the protocol of waiting hours or a day or so for answers
i wasnt even thinking about it
i just assumed everyone was ignoring me is all

so i started thinking folks here either did not care about douglas adams, towel day or both
or maybe even know about them
and i bet my postings showed that

tho i did try to be nice

then about a week after i first logged on i started a game
that i had started years and years ago
on a site called molten mag

i called it ifirantheworld
and i thought it would be fun here
and i put in some directions in an entry A22851065
and started the thread below it F7334674?thread=4169786

we were moving along and then someone in posting 4 comes barging in and insults me royally

i try to be nice about it

no one comes to my rescue

no one tells me about the yikes function

and yet i find out later that lots of 'researchers' were watching me and had opinions about me
the miscreant in posting 4 even thought i was a sock puppet or something

and now... years later ...when i discovered the Lord Wolfden thread about earwigs in the center of the earth....
i was so shocked by so many peoples behaviour
and looking into LW's messages i discover that that
same miscreant who insulted me in posting 4 of my little running the world thread
had really messed with LW when he first arrived in h2g2

soooo
my point is

that even tho the LW thing happened 2005-2006
evidently at least one person who harrassed him
hadnt learned their lesson
and was still getting away with harassing people
in 2007 when i arrived

hence my jumpiness about trolls and past bad behaviour
i dont know if it has been dealt with
even tho some of you all claimed it had been

there is at least one person who appears to not have gotten the memo
and that person was a main player in the LW thing
if not the instigator

so not only my outrage at the LW thing
but also my continuing to bring it up
has a basis in, contrary to what someone said was not logical, a whole lotta logical thinking

this is important
this is about the underpinnings, the foundation and the framework of h2g2



oh and btw... i AM sorry for thinking, in my first week here in may of 2007, that you all dint care about douglas adams or his towel or whatever... i am sorry

No worries... as I've attempted to explain elsewhere the LW thing wasn't as black-and-white as it appears when you're able to look at the whole thing in isolation after the event.

I think everyone's a bit strained right now what with the impending move and whatnot... the best thing to do (and I'm trying to do this more myself) is count to ten before hitting "Post Message" and if after that you're still angry just delete and walk away. It will get better, I promise.

Also, go write a Guide Entry... I'm sure there's something you're knowledgable about that hasn't been covered yet!

that's really big a' ya! thanks!

but...
no boasting!*
as you said, its not a part of the package
(i read about your polyamourness)





*check out my 'test four' entry for the pun if you cant guess it

i just realised that you actually did not respond to my big posting up there
the one about my negative experiences here

and heres something you probably would have no way of knowing...

lately, the only responses i get from folks here
if not total brushoffs
are
reprimands

it gets tedious after a while

perhaps you and a certain other ace could maybe think twice
before you venture to talk to me again
and ask yourselves
is this another reprimand?
and if so, do i reprimand others as often as i reprimand this particular person?

just a suggestion...

i am not going away you know
so, as one of your people said recently, live with it

Sorry. I was at work and on teabreak so didn't really have time to give it a lot of thought.

I'm not really sure what to say, to be honest... it's unfortunate that you have had these experiences but all I can suggest is that you try to move on. Sometimes the past is best left where it is. I'm learning this the hard way IRL after some stuff happened that resulted in a formerly close friend turning her back on me.

If I "reprimand" and brush you off it's because you can across as very self-righteous, which gets tedious after a while... obviously I can't speak for anyone else. I don't mean that in a nasty way, just being honest.

Oh, and I'm as flabberghasted as you undoubtedly are as to why that post was yikes'd I don't remember anything being wrong with it and I appreciated the innuendo.

I'm not going to ask you to go away... if other people have then they're just being childish.

Sorry that this is all a bit disjointed, just that some of my friends are really close to the rioting that's going on here so my thoughts are really focussing on them.

okay... hope you enjoyed your tea : )

as far as my bad experiences here... sure i am a firm believer in moving on also
and i have
but we have been discussing the noohootoo and nooadministration and noomoderation
so my experiences
from the first day
through the discovering of what happened 5 years ago to Lord Wolfden
and up to now
are important once the significance of the pattern is realized

its taken me a while to realize the significance
but now that i do i can explain it better
which i will soon
in a theater near you


as far as me coming across as self-righteous...
hmmm
i would concede i am righteous
but SELF righteous? i dont think so

righteous is ...aware of and acting on ethical or right-thinking values
self-righteous is thinking oneself is better than others ethically

i dont think i am better than the folks involved in stuff i dont like
but i can see how they might think i think i am
its tricky you know
folks who may be involved in wrongdoing are going to be on the defensive about it

so my coming across as something
really i feel is more the observers problem rather than mine

i mean... what am i supposed to do?

"oh i am sorry so sorry but perhaps you are poking that person too much with that sharp knife? maybe it would be better if you put it down and stepped away for
a
very
long
time?"

how do you say things like that in a politically correct way?
wrong is wrong

"stop beating up on that person
its not right"

thats what i would and have said

does that make any sense?

oh and
i dont mean any of that in a nasty way
i too am just being honest

Yeah, but there's a difference between just telling someone they've done wrong and telling them they should be judged for it whilst generally sounding like you are beyond reproach.

okay lets look at my posting in the jokes thread:


that is a horrible joke
there is nothing funny about the murder of children
actually there is nothing funny about the murder of anyone, let alone children
yes i yikesed it
and i hope they put you on premod AND slap your hand for that too
and i hope you sit down, do some research and some soul searching
and figure out what was so wrong about that joke
then go tell the person you heard it from too

whats wrong with telling someone they should be judged for something they did wrong?
thats how our system of laws works

sure i said he should be put on premod... meaning everything he said needed to be looked over before its published because he obviously did not have good enuf judgement to censor himself...

we all think of funny things to say that shouldnt be said
i thought of a very funny thing to say a month or so back
here... on a thread concerning a blunder someone made
but i didnt say it
and never will
because the hurt it would have caused was not worth the possible humor


and sounding like i am beyond reproach???
sorry but i have the courage of my convictions
when i decide something i am emPHATic about it
and trust me
if you had seen this joke
you would have been just as convinced as i was
that it was wrong

someone has to take a stand, mr d

I was actually really referring to... that thing I'm supposed to not be talking about any more...

but i realise that the main objection you had was that i did it there in that thread

and normally i would agree

but i thought i should do it there
because i thought others needed to see it too
that thread has been edgy for a while
folks there need to ...take a step back
and realize where they are

thats why i got on him in the thread
because i was actually getting on all of them
for creating that atmosphere

ohhhhhhh

and here i was trying to stay away from that subject for your sake

hahaha ha

I am my own worst enemy sometimes...

Regarding the Jokes thread I do see your reasoning but I think there are better ways of doing it than making like the Daily Mail.

Calmly saying that someone offended you and that you have used official channels to express this offence is admirable. Insisting that they should be given a particular punishment for it is just petty.

okay i am too...

and also, its good to know one of the reasons you all have... blown me off



okay i am leaving now before i admit too much and regret it later