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dim26trav Started conversation Sep 12, 2004
Do you really know where you are and how fast you are going? Oh really? Well try about 66,000 miles per hour plus. Do you know why I say this? Figure it out and get back to me
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hellboundforjoy Posted Sep 12, 2004
From that Monty Python song about the universe? I forget what it's called. I'm not even sure right now if it's Python, but I think it is. I often have that song in my head.
remember that you're standing on a planet that's revolving and revolving at nine hundred miles an hour. ...and I don't remember the rest. I think it's time for for me.
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dim26trav Posted Sep 12, 2004
Yes of course it was Monty Python's and of course (give or take a few things) they seem right.
On the other hand, yes, get some rest, after all that traveling.
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hellboundforjoy Posted Sep 13, 2004
*maniacal laughter* I got it right! Do I win something?
Or is it my turn? What was the game anyway?
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dim26trav Posted Sep 13, 2004
Unfortunately the only prize for such brilliant guess work is available interdimensionally go pick it up at your leisure. Knowing how fast one is going is only one of the requirements. The other one is truly "objectively" knowing who you are and that sounds much easier than it really is. (Meaning free from all assumptions and preconceived notions)
Having obtained this momumental state of being leads one to travel interdimensionally anyway so go for it and I hope that you can acheive it.
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hellboundforjoy Posted Sep 13, 2004
Do you think newborns know objectively who they are cause the are free of assumptions and preconcieved notions? If so should they be able to travel transdimentionally? Or have they already started to form such notions during thier time in the womb and in the process of being born?
Have you read "The Book" by Alan Watts? I started it but haven't finished.
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dim26trav Posted Sep 14, 2004
I believe that babies dont know who they are in any ordinary sense of that word, they have no separate identity upon birth they think thay are part of their mother and it is the cold cruel world that begins the process for a separate identity, using the raw materials of their DNA. Part of our own emotional growth is this separation. Eventually we learn to re attach ourselves to other people through love and some people just never make that transition. (sociopaths)
I believe in a personal God that I can have a relationship, not some principle or idea. Certainly not some "nothing", beyond all things like the basis for Buddhism (and Zen). Yes I've practiced meditation of many types, even practiced in an isolation chamber. Found that the contemplative meditation from the middle ages worked best for me and no I am not Catholic. Try the "Cloud of Unknowing" unknown author written about 1500 AD.
I also believe in a fallen human nature. Only God can lift us out of this self delusion, that is why it is important for us to have a good relationship with Him. God is willing if we are also...so dont piss Him off with our silly pride.
Enough of the religious stuff for now, more if you like it, but I need to get off my pulpit for now. I am a fourth generation preacher, can go on for hours.
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hellboundforjoy Posted Sep 14, 2004
Is this it? http://www.ccel.org/u/unknowing/cloud.htm
it's in the public domain. And the internet knows everything...
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dim26trav Posted Sep 14, 2004
why, yes it is, have you read it already? Imagine a 600 year old book on the internet... and no copyright infringements. Amazing.
I read a copy from my nearest library though.
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hellboundforjoy Posted Sep 14, 2004
No, I haven't read it yet. I just googled it and there it was. I bookmarked it so I can read it at my leisure.
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dim26trav Posted Sep 16, 2004
To read it properly one needs some Gregorian chant music (leave the phone off the hook,) light some candles and read it as though you were living in some monastery in the middle ages.
It would also benefit a person to read some of the mystical writers from the middle ages also prior to the attempt expecially Psuedo- Dyonysius and St. Barnard (yes there actually was a St Barnard) as a warm up. Since the material in the "Cloud of Unknowing" is based upon this material.One must also remember that this material is frustrating in the sense that it is meant to drive the mind into a non-rational mode (we moderns so like to be rational)Unless the release on the grip of this rational mind is made the experience will not take place and you will just get a wonderful sleep period.
So this is the key I hope you can benefit by it.
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