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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor

smiley - rofl I like the tickling option. I didn't know that worked.

Tell him the tank isn't half empty, it's half full, and point him to Hypatia's journal. smiley - whistle

What I want to know is what the flap is here about the muffled stuff with muffins in? smiley - bigeyes I feel I am missing out on an inside joke, here. smiley - winkeye (Which is what I get for taking a walk instead of sitting at the computer, but Elektra said, 'Hey, there's this big orange thing in the sky...')


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Post 22

aka Bel - A87832164

Try to type m-u-f-f in a word and see what happens.


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Post 23

toybox

The scary fireball? I'm afraid it might fall on my head. Fortunately it doesn't seem to appear that often over Kiel these days.


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Post 24

aka Bel - A87832164

I haven't seen it today, either.


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Post 25

Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor

smiley - rofl That's right, it's November. We lived in Koeln for 4 years. November was one dark, rainy experience there. The only thing that helped was Klosterfrau. I took it daily...

Aha. I am aware of the filter's abhorrence of those things you wear on your ears...and the mention of ring-tailed cats...and Philadelphia street music...and excessive cleanliness...smiley - whistle


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Post 26

lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned


Why does he need to shout at all? smiley - erm


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Post 27

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

he's just venting. in his own manly way. nothing wrong with that

what made you think he was shouting at you, bel?

smiley - pirate


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Post 28

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

I wouldn't recommend shouting back, Bel is wise to leave the room.

I live next door to two (married) shouters. It gets violent on occasions (enough for him to call an ambulance and have her carted off to hospital, once) but still they shout smiley - sadface


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Post 29

You can call me TC

We have the same conversations but my husband (you've met him) doesn't shout. But I still ask - why does he talk to me about it? He seems to think I have better access to the kids (particularly the youngest who is still more or less at home)

In Germany the insurance system is different, so you can only drive a car if you are insured to. At great expense, we insured our boys to be able to drive to make sure they got enough experience in driving when possible, as soon as they passed their tests. To this day none of them owns their own car. Occasionally they will put a bit of petrol in, but there is no agreement about this. For long hauls (e.g. moving away to uni), we have given them some money towards hiring an estate car to transport their stuff.

On coming back from holiday, when we hadn't gone by car, we got used to finding the tank empty and an impossible number of km clocked up on the mileometer.

Other surprises included

- the garden and drive full of dog-ends (Although several handfuls had been swept into the dustbin)
- broken and half-empty beer and spirits bottles in various places, despite other attempts to clean up (well, that was hardly a surprise)
- phone bills of 120 euros for sex hotline calls, easily dated to times they had parties. Sometimes they used the directory enquiry numbers and were put through (which costs even more)


It'll calm down, BEl, at the latest when they have kids themselves, they'll realised what is expected of them.


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Post 30

aka Bel - A87832164

We have a phrase here saying that he who shouts isn't right. I think it's because people tend to think just because they shout they are right and the other party is wrong, or that shouting will make them right.

TC, A helps a lot with the housework, he keeps his room clean, does the shopping, does the cooking quite often. Like you, we pay a high car insurance so he can drive and get experience.
He frequently buys fuel when he has used the car.

There was absolutely no need for my husband to get so annoyed.

I don't think he would have shouted if I had used the car. So why was he so angry about A having used it? It totally lacks logic.

Piece, he wouldn't have shouted at himself, you know. And he wouldn't tell A. He shouts at me to make me go and sot HIS problems for him.
Sorry, but they're not my problems. If I have a problem with one of the boys, I go and tell them. I don't shout. It's not manyl, it's ridiculous.


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Post 31

aka Bel - A87832164

sot? solve

manyl? manly

Is it Toybox's fault or Lilitis? smiley - laugh


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Post 32

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

back in the old days i was prone to shouting myself (doesn't happen very much these days)

and yes, i usually only shouted when there was somebody else around

it was a way of venting my frustration. may not seem very manly, but there you have it

little did i know that my then wife thought i was shouting at her, which was completely beyond me as she usually never had anything to do with the frustrating stuff i was shouting about

maybe your hubby has some underlying issues (i know i had)? maybe this was neither about the car, the petrol, your son nor you?

i'm just saying

smiley - pirate

ps: i realize it isn't very much fun to have a shouting person in the house and i do feel sorry for you and maybe even your husband, i don't know you all that well and i never met him smiley - hug


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Post 33

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Re: TC's posting, smiley - headhurts have a smiley - hug I doubt I'd have kept my cool smiley - sadface


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Post 34

aka Bel - A87832164

I don't know, Pierce. I guess it is about control. He is a control freak.


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Post 35

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

oh smiley - bleep, being a control freak is one of the least desirable personas to be, since you can't really control anything, can you? smiley - erm

so his frustration is understandable. of course this does not make his shouting sound any better, but take comfort in the fact that this is not about you, it is about him

maybe you should try to explain to him that you feel attacked by his shouting even if you think whatever he is shouting about has nothing to do with you and would he please speak to his son about whatever problem he think he's having with the boy?

smiley - pirate


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Post 36

Gnomon - time to move on

Bel,

smiley - hug


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aka Bel - A87832164

In theory, that's a good idea, Pierce, but I was just too baffled by this unexpected attack.


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Post 38

aka Bel - A87832164

Thanks, Gnomon. smiley - hug

I've seen you had a great weekend. smiley - smiley


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Post 39

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

hm, yes, when he's in that mood you probably can't talk sense to him, but you might be able to talk to him at some other time

smiley - pirate


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Post 40

Taff Agent of kaos


Bel you are responsible!!!!!

the adult is allways responsiblesmiley - winkeye

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