h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

And I knew just as many "working class" or blue-collar kids from the scene as snotty suburbanites. Many more so, overall.

And Television and Pere Ubu predate the Pistols as well.

Not that I don't like UK punk (unlike many of the other punk fans I know, who prefer USAnian stuff), because I do.

Nor am I particularly snobby about a lot of USAnian music in general- we've come up with shit like Lynyrd Skynyrd and Bad Company. And you guys came up with T. Rex, Status Quo and The Sweet.

I don't like much punk, but what I do has mostly been US. People like the Pistols and the Jam, all that Oi Oi shit just left me cold.

I like the Jam. The "Oi Oi" stuff is OK, but I don't like it as much. Stiff Little Fingers and the Adicts, though... I'm a huge Stiff Little Fingers fan.

Lesbian.

Does "Another Girl, Another Planet" count? I love that record, but Wiki calls it New Wave. WDIK.

I'd tend to think of the Only Ones more as new wave than punk. The Replacements did a good cover. But I'm not sure whether they're technically punk or "indie rock". It's a good song, though.

You're the third person to call me a lesbian today.

Oh gawd, that thread gets funnier by the minute... did I just read someone call Oasis "ballsy" and "rock and roll". I nearly peed my pants.

Well, they are ballsy, sort of... they had the balls to go out and pitch that crap. And Britain has suffered for it ever since.

Ah- point taken.

Picture if you will the Gallagher brothers, Young British Artist Damien Hirst, and their ilk all having champagne with Tony Blair at 10 Downing Street.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/apr/08/tonyblair.labour6

Rock and Roll!

Indeed!

Of course, there's some sort of car commercial on TV here that has the Clash version of "Pressure Drop" in it. There was a Cadillac commercial years ago with Led Zep's "Rock 'N' Roll", too. I'm not a big fan of Zep, but even still, I was a bit appalled.

There's have been no punk without The New York Dolls. Or The MC5.

And I agree with you wholeheartedly about Clapton, BTW.

I had a conversation with Michael Rosen about him once (famous poet and children's author). He's a man who knows his music! He uses Clapton to suss out whether or not people know what they're talking about.

I don't know why I dislike him so much, I just do. He's really just not that good. (IMO, not at all, but horses for courses, I guess)

That's all dadrock to me. Nothing wrong with a bit of prog though.

You've not seen my latest essay.

Oooh, I've always hated prog.

With Clapton, it's not only that he's not that good, but that I think he's kind of a pr**k, too.

There's that, too. In our minds since thuis week was the fortieth anniversary of Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech.

I know you don't like joining threads where you might encounter The Wrong Sort....but I do wish you'd pitch in.

I do like some Floyd- earlier stuff mostly, and bits from Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here- but it's Syd I really like.

With you on the 13th Floor Elevators, Ed. And Blue Cheer!!

I know. You sent me some Blue Cheer.

Sure, bits of Echoes and Ummagumma are OK. It's all the Syd Barret drivel about bicycles that leaves me cold.