h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

So much is made, by the enemies of God, today, of the way that those who love decency and righteousness hate the wild extremes of sexual perversion, so beloved of the media and politicians, but that is a minor point really.

The issue is SIN.

Never mind the extremists in perversion, and their backers; media people, feminists, etc. God has an issue with the whores and fornicators too.

Alighty God, who made, owns, and sustains, Heaven and Earth says that if anyone engages in sex outide marriage they have sinned against God. All those 'pretty young things' who go off whoring with the boys, and go through serial sexual relationships with all and sundry, have sinned. They will all burn, except they repent and come to Christ.

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

When schools teach youngsters that fornicating/whoring is good and acceptable 'provided you take precausions' are telling lies. There is not a contraceptive on Earth, or ALL the Earth itself, which is will protect these girls from eternal fire.

Under the Law of God, if a boy 'sleeps' with a girl, just once, he has to pay the bride price, a dowry, to the father of the girl, and take her to be his wife, WITH NO POSSIBILITY OF EVER 'PUTTING HER AWAY'.

This is the standard that ALL people will be judged by, God's standard.

God calls girls who 'sleep around' 'whores', in the Bible. You have a choice; who is lying? Almighty God, who made Heaven and Earth, or depraved and wicked man?

"who is lying? Almighty God, who made Heaven and Earth, or depraved and wicked man?"

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On the other hand, all boys and girls can sleep around, f**k around, do whatever around, even cheat on their spouses later on when they get older for many many years . . . AS LONG AS THEY . . . say, when they his a mid-life crisis about the age of fifty, suddenly REPENT all of these sins to the ONE TRUE GOD and thereby be forgiven for ALL past sins of the flesh (and everything else) and get their God car that will drive them to salvation.

Does this sound somewhat familiar to you, Justin?

az

Azahar,

Not true. Fornicators are excuted under the Law of God.

It is not as easy as you think. What God calls repentence is not something in the gift of the natural man, but is God engineered. The heart of man is desperately wicked, and CANNOT repent in and of itself. Heart repentence is impossible, naturally speaking.

If, in your scenario, someone was brought by the Lord to see what they are in His sight, then yes, they would be forgiven, but so would the girl who had been off whoring; what the media think of as being de rigeur. There are no media types in Heaven. Don't you ever think that anything of that standard is going into the presence of a holy God.

i would agree with that azahar.

Justin seems to be speaking very hypocritically. firstly, he seemed only to be refering to women who sleep around os the main sinners, refering to them as whores. secondly, he is going on about judgement of actions, when you are only judged on the sins you have committed, and when saved all your sins are moved from your book to Christ's, and Christ's book now burns in hell as when he died who took them down to hell himself, suffered in hell, then came back.

he who is without sin cast the first stone Justin, so perhaps you should put you bag away.

spook

Hi az

It does sound like someone we all know, doesn't it?

Justin's typing is really off, too. Do you think maybe he swallowed something bad? Or maybe he is having difficulty in controlling his temper?

Madent

hi spook,

Justin is a self-confessed adulterer, so he probably knows quite a bit about 'whores' and possibly something more personal about the 'sodo-scene' than he would care to admit to. Apparently he spent years behaving in this sinful manner.

But then - shazzam! - he heard the Word of God. And now he is saved and all of his past nasty actions are free from judgement.

How convenient.

az

Justin,

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So I guess that's too bad for you then. Wait till God hears you have been taking His name in vain, to support your own guilty conscience.

az

Justin

According to your interpretation of your god's word, all actions by an unsaved person are sinful and only a person who has been saved is free from sin.

Therefore according to your definitions, the only person around here who has been saved is you, Justin.

Madent

PS How can you proclaim, "There are no media types in Heaven." Have you got a got a marketing database for the entire population of heaven or something?

Madent,

It's just wishful thinking on Justin's part. And again, arrogance, that he thinks he can tell others what exactly exists in heaven.

az

actually i'm saved to, so i guess woohoo for me!

i must agree about that last ps, there are definately media types in heaven. i mean, God and his angels are up there watching our lives right now. they obviously turn on to certain lives to see a bit of comedy (everyone does funny things), to see a bit of action (Invasion of Iraq), to see a bit of horror (murders), to see a bit of drama (everyone), etc etc. Our lives are ovies to everyone up in heaven, which ahs gota have sin, which makes God sad, but when something good happens, he's happy, and God always wants the movie to have a happy ending where everyone's a Christian and we can all have a mega party!

spook

"Alighty God, who made, owns, and sustains, Heaven and Earth says"

Remember, Justin, God has repented of his evil intentions in the past. If God can have evil intentions, and if God must repent at times, why do you assume that His intentions of long ago are not evils of which he has since repented?

"And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people." Exodus 32:14

This came after Moses rebuked his God: "Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people." Exodus 32:12

Perhaps it would be appropriate for you to consider whether your understanding of your God is actually a misunderstanding before you start clubbing others with that misunderstanding. The God of the bible is not depicted as unchanging and infallible, despite what some persecutors-in-the-name-of-religion like to think. God has intended evil in his name; are you sure that you do not do the same?

Now, a little bit for fun:


(from An Open Letter to Dr. Laura Schlessinger, http://www.christslove.com/cruciflex/drlaura.htm

I do need some advice from you; however; regarding some of the specific laws
and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice; I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They
claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery; as sanctioned in Exodus
21:7. In this day and age; what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is; how do I
tell? I have tried asking; but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves; both male and female;
provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine
claims that this applies to Mexicans; but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2
clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him
myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
Abomination (Lev. 11:10); it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I
don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my
vision have to be 20/20; or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed; including the hair around
their temples; even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How
should they die?

i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
unclean; but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different
crops in the same field; as does his wife by wearing garments made of two
different kinds of thread. (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse
and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of
getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev. 24:10-16). Couldn't we
just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people
who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively; so I am confident you can
help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.


Have a nice day.

Justin,

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No kidding.

>>What God calls repentence is not something in the gift of the natural man, but is God engineered. The heart of man is desperately wicked, and CANNOT repent in and of itself<<

Justin, the heart of man is *not* desperately wicked nor desperately anything else. We are human. And - hello! - so are you.

You do not have a direct line to GOD ALMIGHTY except in your dreams.

You see, if you were in fact so connected to god you would not be behaving the way you are now.

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Speak for yourself.

az

hi anhaga,

I think I posted the link to that letter on one of Justin's many other threads, but it is always good to read again, also in case anyone missed it first time round.



az

I figured it must have showed up. I thought it would be worthwhile to put the text in the post (as well as the scriptural basis for the argument that God makes mistakes). One wonders if Justin will respond and, if so, in what kind of detail. Perhaps it will be something like his response on another thread to someone who was reading Revelation: "what on earth are you reading that book for?"

Justin: Why on earth are you reading the Gospel of John? It has absolutely nothing to do with the true Christianity practiced by the followers of Jesus. It's nothing but a metaphysical sop tossed to potential gentile converts who had been trained in the Greek philosophical schools.

anhaga,

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God makes mistakes??? You keep up with that kind of talk and you are definitely NOT going to get a car!

az

I love this !Jeremy Hardy read out something similar on the News QuizI think Justin should look for the etymological root for SIN which if i remember has something to do with falling short of a target .Words are powerful things and sometimes we need to see the root because they obtain "baggage" along the way and we bear a world of guilt alreadyliten up dude(orig; 18th cent amer; homosexual) See what i mean
pde

You're thinking of the Greek term "hamartia" which is used in the Greek New Testament (and translated as "sin" in the English Bible). It is also the term usually translated "tragic flaw" in Aristotle's poetics, if I remember correctly. And, yes, it is, at root, an archery term meaning "missing the target."


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Thank you (didn't realise i was doing that much thinking)(it just shows you )

Anhaga,

I have seen some pretty incompetant and ignorant understandings of the Bible in my time, usually from those whom you seem to quote who love filth and are determined to prove God wrong, but that takes the biscuit.