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Great Big Wall.

Post 1

Saturnine

Cycle goes like this :

Anxiety attacks.
Get on with life.
A.A get worse (especially
when combined with
other conditions).

Life begins to falter.

A.A get worse (now in
your
head
no matter what you do
they are still there)

Can't get help, because you
have anxiety.
Have anxiety, so you
need help.
Can't get help because you
have anxiety.
Have anxiety, so you
can't get help.

Money slips away,
Bills pile up.

More pressure.

Eventually the great big wall comes crashing in; you're
strangled by
external pressure.

Ai. Me.


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Post 2

njan (afh)

smiley - sadface.. I don't know what to say or offer to do (or if I can even offer to do anything) other than to say that I'm sorry, and that's virtually meaningless. smiley - sadface

smiley - hug.. people love you, for what it's worth.. *bites lip*


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Post 3

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

smiley - hug I'm sure it'll be smiley - ok soon, your life got like this a while ago and you sorted it out! smiley - biggrin


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Post 4

clzoomer- a bit woobly

Depression is a destroying thing. I live with someone with it and I know. It eats and tears and nags.smiley - sadface

Have you tried P@xil and all it's different varieties? One kind may not be the one for you, the composition and dosage is different for everyone. Remember it's not a drug, just a way for your body to produce the serotonin it should.smiley - hug


It really does work as long as you realise what other things (like alcohol and surroundings) do to it's effects and you.

You are a talented young lady, full of promise and love. Know that there are others in the world who love you and feel some of your pain.
smiley - cuddle


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Post 5

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

You are loved by all here! smiley - hugsmiley - cuddle


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Post 6

Wampus

It's nice to see someone here even more neurotic than I am. Makes me think that I'm not so bad, after all.


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Post 7

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

smiley - erm


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Post 8

njan (afh)

hmm.. drugs bad, especially antidepressants, and especially all three of the big ones (paxil, prozac, effexxor).. smiley - grr

*smiley - cuddle for saturnine*


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Post 9

clzoomer- a bit woobly

Please don't make generalisations. I know several people who are living lives ten times more productive and happy with some of those *drugs*. Just because some people don't know how to wean themselves or are given the wrong formula or drink excessively while on them, don't condemn others to a lifetime of helplessness and hell. They are not like benzedrine or the host of other drugs that treated the symptoms rather than the cause. Some people do not produce or have receptors for enough serotonin and that is a fact. Those people usually moderately to severely depressed, some suicidal- that is another fact. The prozac family if used properly and matched to the patient allows the receptors to accept the serotonin and in some cases for the body to produce more. What is wrong with that?


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Post 10

Haylle (Nyssabird) ? mg to recovery

I think you're reading a little too much into what Njan said...still, Prozac kept me from killing myself after Josey was born and after other bad spots in my life...


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Post 11

Haylle (Nyssabird) ? mg to recovery

Oh, and I should add the I got off as soon as I could. It took away my ability to dream. I can't tolerate not dreaming..also *Ahem* it made me tweak when I smoked my favorite substance.


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Post 12

clzoomer- a bit woobly

Haven't heard of those side effects, and I'm sorry I was so abrupt. It's just that other people taking it has improved my life a great deal. And introduced me to people who weren't.smiley - smiley


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Post 13

Saint Patrick Patron Saint of Depression: Here to haunt your dreams and stalk your waking hours

smiley - cuddlesmiley - love


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Post 14

Potholer

I hope you know how positively you affect people here, Saturnine. I could smiley - hug my image of you for a long time simply for your presence as an intelligent, articulate and thought-provoking woman.

You *may* also have quantity on your side, but your quality is what really stands out. smiley - grovelsmiley - run

Maybe at times you think too much. Beleive me, I do know what that is like, but it really is better than the alternative of thinking too little.


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Post 15

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

Where's Saturnine? smiley - sadface


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Post 16

clzoomer- a bit woobly

I think/hope she's feeling better.smiley - smiley


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Post 17

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

smiley - biggrin


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Post 18

njan (afh)

Extremely, extremely bad things have happened to more than one person I've known in the past as a result of all three of the mentioned antidepressants. I'm quite prepared to concede that there are positive aspects to them; it's extremely unlikely, even setting aside the relative incompetancy of the mental health professions in the UK and US that they'd be used unless they had some merit. Even ECT, possibly the most dubious 'remedy' resorted to by the profession, has been clinically linked to some resolution of conclusions for which it's prescribed. (As to the frequency of said resolution, or many other undesirable side effects is another question).

As far as I'm concerned, people're welcome to resort to whatever medical attention they see fit in order to remedy problems of chemical imbalance or mental disorder. However, as far as I'm concerned, the day on which I have myself pumped full of drugs of which people are not even vaguely aware of even recorded side effects will be the day on which I give up on life altogether.

smiley - angel

- njan

smiley - hug

smiley - rose


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Post 19

njan (afh)

for 'conclusions', read 'conditions'.

Don't look at me, I'm smiley - ill.. *cough, hack, wheeze, etc*

smiley - weird


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Post 20

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

Its really a personal choice whether you want to have your life fixed up by "drugs" or fix it yourself smiley - smiley


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