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Lets set a system for DGI points I think we should agree and not fall out over this even a little.

Your ideas please

If we do set a system, it shouldn't just be between the two of us! I'll go with anything as long as it's consistent...

But you can gain extra point for interesting answers, as well as interesting points even if they are off topic(such as knowing the true reason for such and such that led to the confusion over this or that and why not give one to someone to annoy one of the other contestants, since they gave such a stupid answer.

Since I lobbied for the DGI in the first place (where is that thread??)

I suppose I should clarify it's purpose and intent as I see it.

The DGI is not a random award it was purposefully limited to just one point. However there is nothing prohibiting someone being awarded multiple DGI's.

The reason I proposed them was (cast your mind back) when we all first set up QI and the scoreboard there was this idea of emulating the TV show exactly so there was absolutely no consistency to who could get rewarded if they got a right answer.

What tended to happen was for nudges or almost-rights people got QIs which meant amassing a lot of points very quickly. It was ludicrous.

So the standardised table of scores came in QI +6, Klaxon -5, Correct +3, Elf +1

When we did the last annual switch over my idea was to have a sort of half-way-house: a merit we could award to people in our threads who got something a little bit right, not *the* correct answer, not a pre-determined klaxon and not something that was Quite Interesting (which made that more rarified and harder to get) but the idea was that of all the general ignorance around this remark or comment decreased it by a little bit and narrowed the possible parameters for future answers, hence DGI.

My proposal was to limit it to +1 it's a minor bonus, something to say 'warmer', this way 'getting closer'; I further proposed to increase the elf bonus to +2 (to reward question setters more than the lucky guesses)

So the revised scoreboard now is: QI +6, Klaxon -5, Correct +3, Elf +2, DGI +1.

So to restate: an DGI is +1 (in my view) but can be awarded multiple times thus making it profitable in it's own right broadening the scoring possibilities for other people in the thread (no offence Mal - but do you know everything? ) but to be clear it should be awarded seperately.
eg.

Taff - klaxon for being obvious but a DGI bonus becuase it is set on the moon. -5 +1 = -4.

So I saw this as
If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity. silly
+1

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If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. Her husband's brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her. The first son she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel.
+1
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However, if a man does not want to marry his brother's wife, she shall go to the elders at the town gate and say, "My husband's brother refuses to carry on his brother's name in Israel. He will not fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to me." Then the elders of his town shall summon him and talk to him. If he persists in saying, "I do not want to marry her," his brother's widow shall go up to him in the presence of the elders, take off one of his sandals, spit in his face and say, "This is what is done to the man who will not build up his brother's family line."
+1

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That man's line shall be known in Israel as The Family of the
Unsandaled.

+1


Is that correct then

Not unless each of those were things that help with the answer... I think.

But it is DGI

I think (though Clive may come back and correct me) that it's "ignorance" pertaining to the question, not just general ignorance...

Non sequiturs don't get scored, really - either it's a QI or it gets nothing.

(And if I split it up into more paragraphs, would I have gotten more points? )

No 4 facts 4 points

Oooh I like this people waiting on my divine pronouncements!

Personally, I'd grade the Deuteronomy comments a straight QI. It's tangental and quite interesting in it's own right. The QI bonus - point of fact both QIs and DGIs and bonus awards - is justified if every the comment literally makes you go: oh that's quite interesting , I didn't know that!' - essentially you know when you've been impressed.

I think Mal has a point though I'd not want to stress it, that DGI bonuses are for answers that narrow the scope of future possible answers by being more right than wrong.

For example: do you remember the QI I did about the largest organism (a tree in Utah) I set a klaxon as the Great Barrier Reef in advance, then somewhere along the line I gave a DGI because someone said "America" I figured thereafter everyone *should* focus on America since I'd indicated itthrough my reward that it wasn't Europe of Antarctica, Australia etc. But naturally the Great Barrier Reef was the very next suggestion so I guess they weren't paying attention!

But in principle, in my view, the DGI is not just for any old fact (otherwise we get lists! ) but for close guesses (America was neither type of plant I was after nor the state, but it was as I point out a 'narrowing' answer.) and I intended it to reward the one who made it the comment but to steer the others in the direction of the correct answer i.e decrease their ignorance.

Point sorted out do you think we should tell everyone else

I think an All Points Bulletin wouldn't go amiss - make sure everyone's on the same page when it comes to scoring.

It's hard to give firm guidance because it relies of the question setter's judgement in the main but I'd say that in general.


Klaxons.
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Define in advance, issue only if forfeits tripped. Automatic deduction -5.

Correct Answer. +3
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Single Award, Automatic. Have a definitive correct answer (or set of answers) in mind so that the forum can come to a natural an definitive end.

Quite Interesting Bonus. +6
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Given at the Question Setter's discretion. Multiple Discretionary award. Bonus to be awarded if information provided in an answer or guess is genuinely Quite Interesting.


Decreasing General Ignorance Bonus: +1
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Given at the Question Setter's discretion. Multiple Discretionary award Bonus to be awarded for answers that narrow the scope of future possible answers, relevant to the question. i.e they are more right than wrong? Do they help others towards the correct answer?


QI Elf Bonus +2
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Awarded to the Question Setter for doing the research, craft the questions and deciding the klaxons, monitoring the forums etc. Automatic award once the question concludes.

UPDATE:

Klaxons. -5
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Multiple Automatic Deduction. Define in advance, issue only if forfeits tripped.

Posted on score board

Groovy. Thanks Bob

A few minor tweaks to punctuation if I may.

Please amend changes in []

QI ELF BONUS: +2
Awarded to the Question Setter for doing the research, craft[ing] the questions [delete: and replace with comma ] deciding the klaxons [insert: and] monitoring the forums etc. Automatic award once the question concludes.

DECREASING GENERAL IGNORANCE BONUS: +1
Given at the Question Setter's discretion. [Delete: Multiple] Discretionary award. [full stop / New Sentence] [Insert: Can be awarded multiple times.] Bonus to be awarded for answers that narrow the scope of future possible answers, relevant to the question. i.e they are more right than wrong? Do they help others towards the correct answer?

QUITE INTERESTING ANSWERS: +6
Given at the Question Setter's discretion. [Delete: Multiple] Discretionary award. [Insert: Can be awarded multiple times.] Bonus to be awarded if information provided in an answer or guess is genuinely Quite Interesting.


They were errors in my original draft.

Will you put an announcement as a forum on the QI page to make everyone aware of the update?

Oops one other change.

Quite Interesting Bonus, rather than Answers.

I will do em all tonight