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Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 1

Gnomon - time to move on

I notice that the Month page only shows a few of the entries what were actually published this month. This is because we are using the manual process, but I don't know why those particular entries are shown and not the other ones.

Anybody?

I also notice that Alien v Predator has been moved to the Flea Market, but shows up in the Allocate to Sub Page but not in Coming Up.

Does anybody know how we can remove "This is a Test" without confusing the system?


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 2

Gnomon - time to move on

The Alien v Predator entry seems to have been in Peer Review and was picked, so it shows up on the "Allocate to Sub-eds" page, but someone has moved the copy to the Flea Market; it doesn't appear in the "ComingUp" page.

Original - A28802153
Copy - A29321453


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 3

h2g2 Guide Editors

Both original and copy are status 3. That's why the copy doesn't show up in ComingUp.

I don't know the procedure for removing an entry from the system if it is picked by mistake. I've a feeling the old eds didn't know either.


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 4

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

I agree the manual processes are going to be confusing. When you were on holiday I was quite anxious that we would lose track of Entries in the system, or not have the correct duplication of ordinary Entry on the author's page as well as the version with the sub-editor.

One thing I was relieved to discover was that by manually changing the status to 1, this removed the Entry from the 'Returned from Sub-editor' page automatically.

I am none the wiser about the intricacies of all of this. Icy manipulated some Entries so instead of them being 'pending' they were intermediate to being Approved. ( was this 'Waiting to go Live?')

I feel that I'd really like to leave the manual moving of Entries between the stages after 'Returned from Sub-editors' to you and Icy. There is too much danger of confusion arising, as it would be easy not to communicate exactly with each other when moving things about.


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 5

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

As to why those two Entries are featured in the Month page - I have no idea at all.


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 6

Icy North

I haven't worked out exactly how we trigger the entries to appear on the Month page. As it's only transitional anyway, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. SEF's archive is far more useful, and I'd rather legitimise it somehow.


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 7

Gnomon - time to move on

I've figured the Month page out now. It looks through the list of all Edited Entries for ones whose creation date is a month or less in the past.

We've published 6 entries so far since we took over, but our manual process doesn't affect the date of the entry. So the date is the one at which the entry recommendation was accepted. The two that show up on the Month page were accepted within the last month, which is why they show up. The others were sitting in the queue longer so they don't.

Clearly the automatic tool should alter the entry's date to today's date when an entry is published. I have yet to find any way of doing this in the manual system. If Pastey is going to write a new Editor tool, then it should do that.


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 8

Gnomon - time to move on

Does SEF actually look at the Front Page each day, or does he/she use the Extended Find to look at old Front Pages?


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 9

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

smiley - offtopic

I wanted to ask if you know how to update the Alternative Writing Forum? I saw you were online. I said that I would do a temporary update of the AWW for Janna, as she is linking to it from an Announcement, and it is dreadfully out of date. I logged in as a Guide Editor, but the [edit] button on the Entry itself doesn't bring up the expected GuideML to edit.

If you have any ideas, could you email them to me please?

thanks

LB


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 10

Icy North

I asked SEF the other day, but she hasn't replied.


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 11

Gnomon - time to move on

Lanza, I've sent you an e-mail explaining how to edit the text on the workshop pages.

I've also just noticed that the footnotes aren't working on that page. Is that the way they always were?


Problems with the Manual Editing Process

Post 12

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

I presume they must have been like that - as so far I haven't amended or updated it at all.

thanks for the email by the way.


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