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Post 41

Sho - employed again!

eep!

the point is that if people would only read the instructions (like Mr. Gradient) and follow them, it wouldn't be so "horrible" to be in PR.

Quite frankly we set up the PR Discussion Forum because Matt was so sick of me whingeing at how horrible people in PR were that he wanted

a) to prove me wrong and shut me up (or something like that smiley - smiley)

and

b) to give everyone a place to discuss PR and to give both sides of the story

and I have become convinced that yes, it is daunting (trust me,I am a prima donna of a writer and I HATE to be edited, but as a fic writer I learned to listen to the audience) but daunting is ok when the finished product is considered good enough to be published by the BBC (think how good that looks on your writing CV -you can legitimitely say "published by the BBC" smiley - biggrinsmiley - ok)

Yes, it is sometimes abrupt, and yes sometimes there is an element of losing one's rag. But that's not as often as people might think (especially if they sort PR entries by date rather than by most recent posting to the PR thread)

And not to forget,that the reason people put so much effort into PR is that they (we) genuinely want to put good stuff in the guide. I have differing opinions to other people about what a guide entry should be, as does GB, BH and other people who hang around in there.

I like the Ulrich entry, and when I get a few minutes I'll comment (RL is killing me right now so I'm short of time) and I'm hoping that it can be done and dusted in time to hit the FP while it's still topical and relevant (which is a whole other thing of mine) but there are some writers that when I see they have put something in PR I think "nope, I really really can't abuse my eyeballs that much" and I don't even open them. My bad.

Sometimes it's easy to forget the voluntary nature of all aspects of this thing, rather than just the writing side. It's a lot like me and Gruesme #1 and maths: yep, there is shouting and stomping off to bedrooms (not just by her) but the target is the same - good maths. It's the same here - a good guide.

After that, we all need a cup of smiley - tea


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Post 42

lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned

*drags in Rob the Carpet* smiley - lurk

I've just woken up and would love a cuppa smiley - tea


smiley - smiley


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Post 43

Sho - employed again!

smiley - tea all round
and smiley - cake


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Post 44

aka Bel - A87832164

>>the point is that if people would only read the instructions (like Mr. Gradient) and follow them, it wouldn't be so "horrible" to be in PR.<<

So true,I've come across another really failed submission to PR only this morning smiley - groan

>>Sometimes it's easy to forget the voluntary nature of all aspects of this thing, rather than just the writing side.<<

True again, that's what I tried to say last night: that it was nice to see that somebody spent his precious time reading and commenting on what (in this case) I had written smiley - magic


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Post 45

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

Cheers Sho, for everything smiley - hug I don't suppose you could help me add a bit more to my entry, there's sod all about him out there apart from his professional credentials


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Post 46

Sho - employed again!

I'll try to have a look this evening - I'm having a bit of a day with the Gruesomes at the moment.

smiley - smiley

it's nice to see you writing though smiley - hug


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Post 47

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

smiley - teaUm, I meant to read this yesterday, and now there's tons of backlog so I'll just leave a big smiley - hug and take my smiley - teapot and go read smiley - smiley

smiley - hug


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Post 48

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Reefgirl regarding your Ullrich entry, (haven't been back to the PR thread today sorry) - I had a Flea Market rescue on Diego Maradona in there recently which got a rough ride first time around, I hadn't a clue of his personal life and tempers got frayedsmiley - erm

I ended up calling it "The football career of Diego Maradona" thus skipping over the stuff I didn't want to write, does that help?


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Post 49

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

I'm just interested in his background that's all, there's sod all about him apart from what's in my entry, I was just wondering if any German Reseachers had anymore info


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Post 50

U168592

"Quite frankly we set up the PR Discussion Forum because Matt was so sick of me whingeing at how horrible people in PR were that he wanted

a) to prove me wrong and shut me up"

smiley - rofl

Even if I wanted to Sho - not likely smiley - winkeye

But I think in our own little way the PR Discussion Forum has helped make PR more accessible, because the sniping goes on elsewhere now smiley - ok



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Post 51

Sho - employed again!

hee hee hee
tickled you out of the woodwork there
smiley - tickle

well, I know it helped me, and that's what counts (to me, at least)


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Post 52

the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish

>>I'm just interested in his background that's all, there's sod all about him apart from what's in my entry, I was just wondering if any German Reseachers had anymore info


its kind of why I'm avoiding Fingon, it took me hours to find what I had. Even then most of it was from my memories as a 10 year old watchign him spit at journos


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Post 53

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

Ah well, that's what you get for being passionate about a fairly minority sport around these parts


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Post 54

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

I'm sorry Reefgirl, I thought you meant you needed personal details for your entrysmiley - ermnot for your own pervy desiressmiley - laugh

smiley - winkeye


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Post 55

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

I DO need personal stuff for my article, I've been getting my pervy kicks for the last 2 weeks watching the Giro d'Italia smiley - drool


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Post 56

GreyDesk

The Giro has been on British TV!? Which channel?


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Post 57

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

British Eurosport


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Post 58

POV_Gunn

What is it about men on bikes? The lycra? The smooth, hairless legs? The monster thighs? Or the fact that pedalling a bike all day keeps them out of "trouble".
smiley - biker
smiley - huh
smiley - choc


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Post 59

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

Yes to all smiley - evilgrin


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Post 60

GreyDesk

Ah, that would be one of the channels that I don't have then.


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