A Conversation for Queen Elizabeth II
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Nov 17, 2005
Starting again, with Azara's points:
"When Princess Elizabeth was just 13 she met handsome naval officer Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten who was a distant cousin on both sides of his family. His father, Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark, was a first cousin of George V, while his mother, Princess Alice of Battenburg, was a great-granddaughter of Queen Victoria."
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"Just before the wedding HRH the Prince Philip was given the title of Duke of Edinburgh (he is also the Earl of Merioneth and Baron Greenwich) by the King."
Didn't he also renounce his Greek titles and citizenship, and convert from Greek Orthodoxy to the Church of England?
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"Prince Andrew (born 1960) and Prince Edward (born 1964), were the first children to be born to a reigning monarch since Queen Victoria."
It's not completely clear whether you mean Victoria's children or herself. This would be clearer:
"Prince Andrew (born 1960) and Prince Edward (born 1964), were the first children to be born to a reigning monarch since Queen Victoria's youngest daughter (born 1857)."
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"The Lady Louise Windsor (born 2003), the daughter of Prince Edward."
That's "The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor.." Apparently it was a sore point with Prince Philip that his children would get his wife's surname, not his, and some time in the 60s the surname Mountbatten-Windsor was suggested as a possibility for their grandchildren. But only Prince Edward seems to have used it."
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the more you watched her, the more you felt endeared to her."
I think that verb is the wrong way round:
"the more you watched her, the more endearing she seemed"
"Queen Elizabeth has never made a state visit to Ireland. She's visited former enemies like Germany and Japan, and former colonies like India, but the legacy of the split between Northern Ireland and the present Republic prevented any possibility of a state visit until recently"
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George III (1738 - 1820) - he ruled for 60 years before being judged insane..."
The 60 years of his reign included those years where he was mad: his son was Regent but he was ruling on behalf of George III.
"George III (1738 - 1820) - he ruled for 60 years but for the last ten years he was judged insane and his elder son the Prince of Wales (the future George IV) acted as Prince Regent until his father's death."
I did check this, and I thought I read that he inherited the throne at the age of 12, which would make his total reign 70 years, as he lived to 82. I took off the 10 years which his son reigned as Regent, and was left with "he ruled for 60 years before being judged insane" - although I will change it if it's wrong.
I love that salad quote, I've added a bit about the Silver Jubilee and put the quote at the end of it.
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Nov 17, 2005
Her title in the United Kingdom is 'Queen Elizabeth II by the Grace of God, Queen of this Realm and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith' according to www.royal.gov.uk which describes itself as the Official Website of the British Monarchy.
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Nov 17, 2005
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Thanks Gnomon, I'll change that and add "Her title in the United Kingdom is..."
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Nov 17, 2005
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I've checked another source and changed the entry to:
George III (1738 - 1820) - he ruled for 60 years before being judged insane and his elder son the Prince of Wales (the future George IV) became Prince Regent until his father's death.
Just like Azara said
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Nov 17, 2005
That should be:
George III (1738 - 1820) - he ruled for 60 years but for the last ten years he was judged insane and his elder son the Prince of Wales (the future George IV) acted as Prince Regent until his father's death.
OK, I think that's everyone's points taken, I'll add a section on things named after her later, gotta go, RL calls.
Please remind me if I've missed anything - there was quite a bit of discussion and wrong information back there in the backlog
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Azara Posted Nov 18, 2005
for the changes!
A small correction to the name of Prince Philip's mother--it's Princess Alice of Battenberg, not Battenburg. I think I'd got her mixed up with that yellow and pink cake! I alway knew my weakness for marzipan would let me down.
Azara
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Nov 24, 2005
Anything else I can add?
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Casper, the friendly spirity-type-entity from Scotland (though currently elsewhere...) Posted Nov 25, 2005
Hi GB,
I thought I'd better read the entry again, after a few days away.
There's a couple of things I think you could add:
1. Regarding her time in the Women's Auxiliary Service during the war, I think the Queen is still the only female member of the Royal family to have served in the forces.
2. In the list of the other monarchs who have reigned for 50yrs or more, you give the birth/death dates of James VI and George III, but not their reigns (1567-1625 and 1760-1820, respectively).
3. I'm not sure about this, but I think couples celebrating their Diamond Wedding get a message from the Queen?
(ok, that's 3, not 'a couple'...)
Also some grammar corrections:
1. 'The Earl Marshal, of England,...' -> 'The Earl Marshal of England,...'
2. '...Supreme Governor of the Church of England but although taking a personal interest in, and attending church services regularly, she delegates...'
This doesn't read quite right. I think it needs to be something like:
'...taking a personal interest in the church, and attending church services regularly, she delegates...'
Just to complicate things again, is it worth a footnote to say that she is just an ordinary member of the Church of Scotland?
3. '...wept in public; when...' -> '...wept in public: when...'
4. '...year 1992 - the year that......caught fire, the term...' -> '...caught fire - the term...'
Apart from those, I think it's good to go. It'll be good to see this in the EG where it deserves to be!
- Casper
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Nov 25, 2005
Thanks for the re-review Casper!
1. Regarding her time in the Women's Auxiliary Service during the war, I think the Queen is still the only female member of the Royal family to have served in the forces.
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2. In the list of the other monarchs who have reigned for 50yrs or more, you give the birth/death dates of James VI and George III, but not their reigns (1567-1625 and 1760-1820, respectively).
Dunno how I missed those, thanks a lot
3. I'm not sure about this, but I think couples celebrating their Diamond Wedding get a message from the Queen?
You're absolutely correct:
The link to the h2g2 entry A680113 - (my entry) does go into detail about Diamond Wedding Celebrations, I also wrote about it for the Post but can't link to that in a prospective Edited Entry unfortunately.
It was one of those entries where you do the deed then write about it for the benefit of others
The tradition didn't start with the Queen and I'm sure Prince Charles will carry it onso I didn't want to go on about it too much in an entry on Queen Elizabeth II but I have added it on the original sentence
Grammar:
1: 'The Earl Marshal of England'
2: ..and the Supreme Governor of the Church of England but although taking a personal interest in the church, and attending church services regularly, she delegates authority to the..
Just to complicate things again, is it worth a footnote to say that she is just an ordinary member of the Church of Scotland?
3. '...wept in public; when...' -> '...wept in public: when...'
4. '...year 1992 - the year that......caught fire, the term...' -> '...caught fire - the term...'
<<"">> - pedant away! I like my entries to be grammatically perfect - less work for the sub-ed
The Earl Marshal, The Most Noble Bernard Marmaduke Fitzalan-Howard, 16th Duke of Norfolk (1908 – 1975) of England, in charge of the rehearsals, threatened the cameramen with imprisonment, saying 'there's still room in the Tower', if they stepped out of line [during the Coronation ceremony]I just had to put that inYou kinda get the impression he was quite a character in his day, (He could trace his family back to the Howards who were connected to Henry VIII through Catherine's family)
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Scruff79 Posted Dec 1, 2005
Interesting post.
The only thing I found difficult to follow was when you talked about her children and mentioned their titles after each name. It may be easier to list the chidlren, Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward, and then list their titles seperately, maybe as a footnote?
You also don't menion the second world war until the APS where she learned to drive, but you had already mentioned that she had given a radio speech to children who had been evacuated, obviously during WW2.
Great post - I was in the Mall watching the Arrows/Concorde flyover - amazing, you brought it back!
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Ormondroyd Posted Dec 1, 2005
Excellent work, GB!
I have just one nitpick: 'gaff' is Cockney for 'home'. Prince Philip's moments, mentioned at the end of the section dedicated to him, are 'gaffes', with an 'e'.
You *could* illustrate the point made there by linking to this very entertaining BBC collection of said gaffes: http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/features/2003/11/queens_visit/prince_philip_gaffes.shtml
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 2, 2005
Excellent site - thanks Ormy! I've already linked to the "gaffe" entry EV did on Prince Philip - but I'll add this too
Thanks Scruff79!
to sort typo and re-arrange the war...
A5110958 - HM Queen Elizabeth II
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 2, 2005
Back again - Scruff79 - I'm afraid I'm at a loss to know what you don't follow - everything is in chronologial order. Except the quote at the beginning, which starts off the piece, which is usual for entries. I didn't do a separate section on the war because it wasn't *her* war, it was her parents'...
There's way too much info on her children to put the titles in footnotes, sorry (and there are already too many footnotes) - I might put them in a bulleted list today though which will make it a bit easier to read...
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- 41: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Nov 17, 2005)
- 42: Gnomon - time to move on (Nov 17, 2005)
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- 44: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Nov 17, 2005)
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- 47: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Nov 18, 2005)
- 48: Azara (Nov 18, 2005)
- 49: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Nov 18, 2005)
- 50: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Nov 20, 2005)
- 51: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Nov 24, 2005)
- 52: Casper, the friendly spirity-type-entity from Scotland (though currently elsewhere...) (Nov 25, 2005)
- 53: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Nov 25, 2005)
- 54: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Dec 1, 2005)
- 55: Elentari (Dec 1, 2005)
- 56: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Dec 1, 2005)
- 57: Scruff79 (Dec 1, 2005)
- 58: Ormondroyd (Dec 1, 2005)
- 59: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Dec 2, 2005)
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