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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Oct 19, 2003
I always spell it 'under way' and never thought about the origin of it. I assumed it was connected with 'on my way', but never thought about why it was 'under'.
Make way
plaguesville Posted Oct 19, 2003
Definitely nautical, TC.
What we need is ~jwf~
He's the nautiest person around here.
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plaguesville Posted Oct 19, 2003
OED Compact:
Naut. Dutch onderweg. On the way.
Having begun to move through the water. Often spelt under *weigh* from erroneous association with weigh anchor.
Being a member of the Fathers' Union I am sorry to disagree with your father, but ...
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anhaga Posted Oct 19, 2003
OED has "a common variation of 'under way' , from erroneous association with the phr. 'to weigh anchor'." They give the earliest example at 1785.
For "under way" they have:
"Naut. [ad. Du. 'onderweg' (also '-wegen') on the way, under way, f. 'onder' under, in the course of, etc. + 'weg' (dat. pl. 'wegen') way.] Of a vessel: Having begun to move through the water." The give the earliest example at 1743.
It is well worth the read to look at the multiple page entry on "Way". There are a number of nautical uses having to do with the course of the ship and the wake of the ship and other things.
Does this help?
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plaguesville Posted Oct 19, 2003
anhaga,
I used a magnifying glass, in addition to my wife's reading glasses and more help than I needed from a poorly cat on my lap.
Does that count as cheating?
Make way
anhaga Posted Oct 19, 2003
I used the magnifying glass as well. It still hurt. That bloody way entry is about 14 pages long!
I never used to have to use the magnifying glass.
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Wand'rin star Posted Oct 20, 2003
I'm glad I wasn't around earlier as I'm definitely one to spell it "weigh" under the erroneous impression.... I would have been quite definite about it too.
Segway
Wand'rin star Posted Oct 20, 2003
is the way one of my colleagues (from Canada) regularly spells this. Is it in general use?
extraordinarily proud that she can still manage withour glasses / specs. Which of those terms do you use?
Segway
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Oct 20, 2003
As far as I know, a Segway is a little motorised pogo stick on wheels. A segue, pronounced the same, is a smooth transition from one musical number into the next.
Segway
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Oct 20, 2003
The Segway was also known as "Ginger" for a long time, in the series of teaser adds "What is Ginger?".
Segway
Wand'rin star Posted Oct 20, 2003
That's even better! "We'll now ginger into our next revision topic". I'll let you know how long it takes to spot the usage in anyone else's speech
Segway
You can call me TC Posted Oct 20, 2003
If the word "to ginger" existed, I would imagine it being more of a mince than a pogo hop.
Am I right in thinking "To ginger up" does exist. If not, it would be a good alternative to "to spice up".
*tootles off, singing 'Spice up your life'*
Segway
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Oct 21, 2003
Wand'rin Star, are you trying to deliberately mislead your students or did you misunderstand me?
Ginger
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Oct 22, 2003
Gingering on to the next subject,
is British Ginger hair the same colour as Irish Red hair?
Ginger
Wand'rin star Posted Oct 23, 2003
The only Irish redhead I know well is definitely ginger. But I thought Irish red meant auburn - the colour of an Irish setter
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