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The increasingly strange world of my friends

Post 21

nicki

The thing is it hasnt been prooved either way.

I had the jab and Im only just young enough for it. it hadnt been out long when i had it. think my brother was too old for it.
its never caused me a problem has it? smiley - winkeye

there is alot out there that it does cause autisim but there is also many other cases where there hasnt been a problem.

i can understand how its a difficult choice especially after where she has worked.

my mum has always said though that she doesnt regret getting the doctors to give it too me and would do it again.


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Post 22

T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly.

Firstly those parents aren't aware of all the facts. They're right, their children didn't show signs of autism before they had the mmr, but then they wouldn't. Autism does not become aparent until after the mmr would be given. It's kind of like saying that GCSE/A-Levels cause Schizophenia. After all almost all schizophrenics do not display symtoms untill they reach 16-18.


smiley - cheers


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Post 23

T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly.

however the most important thing is that she get him immunised, although I don't think they do the single vaccines on the NHS, so she may have to pay to get them done privately. If she doesn't she could end up in trouble if they get anything and give it to someone else


smiley - cheers


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Post 24

Mizzpinky *sighs* here we go again

*sigh*

it's a non stop round of worry

I was fine when I first found out that I was going to scott. Then a friend of mine had her 12 week scan and they found out her baby had died.

So that was all panic stations!!!!!. I've never been so scared in my life, every little pain and ache I was convinced I was loseing him. Then I promised myself no more worrying after I'd had that scan because I would be able to see him moving around and I would know he was ok.

At the 12 week scan the nurse quite happily informs me that I'll have another scan at 20 weeks so they can make sure all his internal organs are functioning properly.

Another panic, "what if there is something worng with him etc" Blah. and every programme I switched on was about babies who had somethng wrong with them, I was beside myself with worry. So again I promised myself that after this scan I would not worry any more and would just settle myself and enjoy it.

HA!!!! They did that scan and decided he was a big baby and they wanted to keep an eye on him so I had to go for a scan every 2 weeks!!!!! Then they had to do this gloucouse test on me. Whiles I was sat in the waiting room waiting for this, all the women who had gone before me for the same test were throwing up. Oh joy!!!

Then I have to be addmitted to hospital because my blood presure was sky high. Personnally I'm not surprised! after all that.

So now I'm wishing him out thinking, I'll be ok then because he'll be out and ok.

Then little tyke decides he's had enough waiting about and my waters broke MAJOR PANIC STATIONS. I kept telling the midwife, he can't come yet I'm not ready!!!! to which she paintenly explained, yes but he is. BLAH BLAH!!!!!

So then you'd think every thing would be ok, oh no, he gets jaudence and has to go into this incubator with this light shining on him. I can not tell you how much that broke my heart. Not being able to touch him and hold him. Now don't get me wrong they said I could but the less time he spent under the light the longer it would take him to get better, so I didn't feel I could touch him. And they kept comming and pricking his little feet with needles to they could take blood and it hurt him so much. He was in for a week and that was the longest week of my life.

After that it hasn't been plain sailing, just as he was ready to have his jabs, there was a big fuss about them containing mercury!!!!! God what now!!!! another worry. And at the same time he started having a problem with his neck, it was a little stiff and he had to go for physio.

*sigh* and now this with the mmr

I love him so much I would never forgive myself if a decision I made his life difficult in any way.

smiley - erm that turned into a bit of a rant and it wasn't meant to be. I know I'm very lucky that he's healthy and full of smiles and sunshine


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Post 25

Cal - interim high priest of the Church of the Holy Tail

smiley - cuddle


relax a bit, he'll be a tenager before you know it, and you'll have missed out on him, because you spent the whole time worrying


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Post 26

nicki

smiley - cuddle

I didnt know about the incubator bit. smiley - cuddle


Your doind fine sweetie. your a fantastic mother, and I can tell you, my mum cals it first baby syndrome! Every body goes through it. In a few years hell be all grown up and you can look back and realise that the worrying was for nothing.

I was the problem baby for my mum. I was her third pregnancy and i was born premature. I then got bronchitus and had to be in an incubator. I had the MMR jab and im fine!

You just need to relax a little and enjoy the time youve got with him before he grows up.

Trust your instincts and your motherly judgement youll do fine. you need to get him vaccinated against mumps, measles and rubella but its your choice whether to do them seperately or combined.
1 needle or 3.

smiley - cuddle


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Post 27

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

I agree with TB, have the MMR, Alex has Semantic Pragmatic Disorder which is a form of Autism and I don't think for one omoment it was tied to MMR, I'd rather she have the jab than she suffer the effects of measles and rubella, the misery caused by measles is horrible and the long term effects of rubella are unbelieveable, my mum has the mildest form when she was expecting my sister, so mild she didn't get the spots but the effect was seen, my sister has Cerebral Palsey, I'd rather take the risk with MMR than have Alex suffer more with the diseases they prevent

Alex was in intensive care for 5 days after she was born and had suspected jaunice, I was a wreck for all the time she was in there.

I agree with Nicky, all mums wrap their babies in cotton wool and always will Alex is now 10, I still grab her hand when we cross the road, still make sure she's wearing a jumper, still pause outside her door to hear if she's breathing, and my mum still moans at me if I don't eat breakfast, still asks me if I'm going to be warm enough without my coat

You'll still be fussing over him when he has a family of his own

Trust me on this you are not alone in worrying about your baby there are over a billion mothers who are exactly the same

smiley - cuddle


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Post 28

Mizzpinky *sighs* here we go again

there's no question of him not having the Jab


just when and which

*sigh* I never thought it was possible to feel this way about another person.

My mom always used to say "when they're babies they make your arms ache and when they grow they make your heart ache" I know what she meant now


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Post 29

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

Mizzp, you're not alone in this there are plenty of mums on h2 share your worries with them, drop me a note, you know the old saying "A girls best friend is her mum" my mum was an invaluable source of comfort during the first few year as are other mums

smiley - cuddle


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Post 30

Cal - interim high priest of the Church of the Holy Tail

*pokes mizzp*


pack it in


my mother always said "it'll all come out in the wash"


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Post 31

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

You think your friends are strange Cal. That's nothing compared to mine. Why the other day I walked over to them and they all ran away before I got to them. And sometimes they just ignore me while I talk to them. smiley - laugh

Hey, are you listening to me?! smiley - cross


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Post 32

lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned

oooeerr! smiley - run


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Post 33

Scandrea

MizzP smiley - cuddle

It'll be OK. You sound a lot like my mum sounded when my brother was born. He had a cleft pallete, and has had I-dunno-how-many surgeries to fix it since.

But trust someone with access to the journals- there is no causal link to MMR vaccines and autism.


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Post 34

Mizzpinky *sighs* here we go again

smiley - erm

I'm sure everything will come out in the wash, as cal says


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