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A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump Started conversation Jan 11, 2002
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A667794
I understand this, 'coz I wrote it and I'm an accountant.
Does it make sense to anyone else?
Comments please.
Geoff
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Whisky Posted Jan 11, 2002
Yup, it actually made sense to me, but I must admit, I'm still confused as to just how and why accountants ended up using debit and credit for the opposite meaning as the general public.
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump Posted Jan 11, 2002
I touched on this in the footnotes...
Most people get their definition of Debit & Credit from their bank statement.
The key thing to understand is that the bank's account with you is a mirror image of your account with the bank. Your statement shows the bank's account with you. It shows how much money the bank owes you (assuming no overdraft). When you write a cheque, you are reducing their debt to you. This is as good as money coming in, so it's a debit entry.
Clearer?
Maybe I should expand on this in the article......
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Whisky Posted Jan 11, 2002
Your last comment was perfect, the first time I've actually clearly understood the principle (ok so I'm stoopid), but if it could be worked into the article, it would be great
whisky
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump Posted Jan 11, 2002
I've added that explanation into the article.
Geoff
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Jan 11, 2002
Hmm! In my experience loan sharks require interest on their loans, even if the're repaid the same day. You might want to change this to his mother, or some other such altruistic person. (Of course mother's aren't always altruistic, but generally ...)
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Tube - the being being back for the time being Posted Jan 12, 2002
Good entry! I think it should make it into the guide.
One nitpick: You might want to explain what CR and DR stand for.
Other than that it's fine and it does make sense.
Tube
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Tube - the being being back for the time being Posted Jan 12, 2002
Ah, and one other thing came to mind: Why?
I mean, why have this difficult system when a simple debit/credit record would seem enough? what are the advantages of Double Entry Book-Keeping? Just to make accountancy well-paid?
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Geoff Taylor - Life's Liver Posted Jan 12, 2002
A sale is a sale is a sale, but the method of payment might differ. You might get paid in full , or by instalments. If you simply had one entry that said "Sales - £100", how would you know how much money was owed to you at any one time?
Instead, we have double entries.. credit Sales & debit Debtors.
Each time an instalment is paid.. debit Cash & credit Debtors.
er....has that answered the question?
And anyway, not all accountants get paid fortunes. This one doesn't, for starters!
Geoff
PS I'll define CR & DR when I get back to the office on Monday and login as my BLACK side.
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Tube - the being being back for the time being Posted Jan 12, 2002
Ah, fine, that makes sense. How would you deal with goods the title to which does not pass until the last rate is paid? .... no,you don't have to answer that one
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Geoff Taylor - Life's Liver Posted Jan 12, 2002
You normally don't make any accounting entries for title of goods.In the UK, you're more likely to sue for damages than forcibly reclaim the goods.
I know I didn't have to, but...
Geoff
A667794 - the Basics of Double Entry Book-keeping
Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump Posted Jan 16, 2002
OK....I've changed the DR & CR abbreviations to avoid any potential confusion.
Dancer, what's UK biased about the article? AFAIK, Double entry is the accepted standard in most nations. There are differences, but the basics are the same wherever you go.
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Whisky Posted Jan 18, 2002
This deserved to get into the guide, anything that could make something so completely incomprehensible so comprehensible gets my vote (does this sentence make sense?)
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