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Vic Started conversation Sep 27, 2001
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A633296
What do you think? Took it to the writers workshop they seemed to think it was ok, maybe it needs some padding though?
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Ormondroyd Posted Oct 2, 2001
A very interesting essay, on what can't have been an easy subject to tackle. It seems very timely, given that people all over the are currently in the grip of fear because of the threat of war.
I was rather surprised by the ending, when you suddenly seemed to swing around rather in favour of the fear, after previously pointing out how childish and irrational it was. It is true that fear of the unknown (which is, I think, essentially what is being discussed in most of the Entry) can be a useful defence mechanism, and can save lives. The other side of that coin, though, is that the same fear of the unknown is the root of many ugly prejudices.
Xenophobia, I would suggest, is a form of primeval fear - an irrational fear of the unfamiliar. I'm not suggesting for a moment that you meant to support such unsavoury attitudes, but I think it is worth pointing out how primeval fear can be a very destructive force, when people attack others simply because they're 'different' and unfamiliar, and therefore threatening. Primeval fear was surely the force behind the witch trials of centuries gone by. I remember reading how maps in ancient times would be marked 'here be monsters' to indicate the areas that hadn't been properly charted yet. If that did happen, it was a great example of primeval fear at work!
Here on h2g2, of course, we know that monsters are rather cute...
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Mycroft Posted Oct 2, 2001
Shouldn't the entry be called Primal Fear if it's about childish fears?
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Ormondroyd Posted Oct 2, 2001
Well, the Entry isn't JUST about childish fear in the literal sense - i.e. fears that a child might have. I've just looked up 'primeval' and 'primal' in a dictionary, and I would say that 'primeval' fits the kind of fear that's being discussed here.
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Vic Posted Oct 2, 2001
Thank you, that's very helpful, i can see how i have been more in favour of primeval fear, to balance it out i will definatly add some stuff on Xenophobia and such. Back to the drawing board. Didn't i mention maps form teh past? Maybe that's a different article i'm writing... Ah well.
Thanks again
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Ormondroyd Posted Oct 2, 2001
You're quite right - you did mention maps and s, though not that famous phrase 'Here be monsters'. My apologies. That'll teach me not to post in the small hours when I'm half-asleep!
The Entry still looks good in daylight, though!
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Vic Posted Oct 4, 2001
That's all right, at least you posted, and at least you're not posting whilst drunk like me!
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Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Posted Oct 18, 2001
I've quit posting while UIA, or rather, I quit drinking while under the influence of h2g2.
I'd say, it could benefit from some headers or subheaders to underline the structure. Otherwise it's
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Researcher PSG Posted Oct 19, 2001
Right I have just skipped through it, so forgive me if I have missed the answers to my points:
Isn't Vertigo, fear of spiders, and fear of snakes a couple of the group of fears that are inbuilt in our minds when we are born. And some people lose these fears naturally and others retain them? Is this effect mentioned?
Shouldn't this be called "Primeval Fears of People" or something that makes it clear its talking about a psychological thing rather than being about a horror novel, which it sounds like, to be fair.
But apart from that it seems to make some interesting points.
Researcher PSG
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Researcher PSG Posted Oct 19, 2001
Oh and did you mention Golem [an image or automation that can be brought to life by a charm, from medieval Jewish Folklore] as I think it is very important as it shows a fear of things displaying life that shouldn't, you know inanimate objects being brought to life.
Just a thought.
Researcher PSG
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Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Posted Oct 22, 2001
Just stepping in to say ! (The other Scout who recommended it now will soon be there as well, I'm sure)
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Vic Posted Oct 24, 2001
Cool, i'm glad it's gone in to peer review, i have to admit that i've just started uni so unfortunately i aint got as much time to potter round on the computer so sorry if i didn't get back to any of the comments you made, they have all now been noted though. Victoria
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Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Posted Oct 25, 2001
Oh, if you've got amendments to make then you should contact the SubEd, either directly or via the copy (which is in the hands of the SubEd) of your entry here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A647868. Changes to the original entry might go unnoticed!
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Vic Posted Oct 27, 2001
well, actually i rather like it the way it is, it's just other people who thought i should add something here or there. And anyway with my time constraints (i have two essays in for next week - aargh) i think it would be better if i just left it alone.
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- 1: Vic (Sep 27, 2001)
- 2: Ormondroyd (Oct 2, 2001)
- 3: Mycroft (Oct 2, 2001)
- 4: Ormondroyd (Oct 2, 2001)
- 5: Vic (Oct 2, 2001)
- 6: Ormondroyd (Oct 2, 2001)
- 7: Vic (Oct 4, 2001)
- 8: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Oct 18, 2001)
- 9: Crescent (Oct 19, 2001)
- 10: Researcher PSG (Oct 19, 2001)
- 11: Researcher PSG (Oct 19, 2001)
- 12: h2g2 auto-messages (Oct 22, 2001)
- 13: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Oct 22, 2001)
- 14: Ormondroyd (Oct 23, 2001)
- 15: Vic (Oct 24, 2001)
- 16: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Oct 25, 2001)
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