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Peer Review: A617069 - Teenagers and Their Sub-cultures
Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) Started conversation May 23, 2003
Entry: Teenagers and Their Sub-cultures - A617069
Author: Elbow Yangle Mk2 - U182953
Hey. I think this is finished and meets the guidelines, but if anyone has any suggestions about what I could do with it now, they would be greatfully recieved!
Cheers, Elbow xx
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Z Posted May 23, 2003
Good entry Elbow!
Tought maybe you should mention that it's mainly teenagers in the UK, and the time of writing because these things seem to change pretty quickly
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Number Six Posted May 23, 2003
Indeed. 'Grebo' only has one 'e', or at least, it did in the early 90's.
It's also worth pointing out that these things can change depending where in the country you are - in Stafford, for example, you were a goth if you who wore black rather than blue jeans and listened to any music that wasn't in the charts. Then you went to a proper city and saw what proper goths looked like, and realised you were just an indie kid.
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Number Six Posted May 23, 2003
I'd also say you need to credit Kier, Uncle Heavy and DoctorMO by putting their researcher numbers in the 'Set Researchers' section, rather than at the end of the article.
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Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) Posted May 28, 2003
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Chronicargonaut Posted May 28, 2003
Around here we call female Scallies "Kappa Slappers", with reference to their preferred style of dress, tracksuits, trainers, hooded tops.
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Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) Posted May 30, 2003
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Z Posted May 30, 2003
Well around the area I grew up we used to call them Kappa Slappas as well, that was in Skelmersdale, near Liverpool..
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Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) Posted May 31, 2003
Good work! Ive been there, tis nice. I come from round Chester, but I had never heard that one!
Elbow xx
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Geggs Posted Aug 1, 2003
This entry looks kinda decent, but it's sunk to the end of PR.
Anyone want to make any further comments?
Geggs
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Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) Posted Aug 15, 2003
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Farlander Posted Sep 26, 2003
hello!
i must say i found this article very interesting. it's too bad it concentrates only on the sub-cultures of english teenagers, because over here (and i won't say where *here* is), we have quite a couple of interesting (and flourishing!) sub-cultures as well! the groups under the most attack are what we call the lalas (boys who dress in uncommonly tight tops - usually from shops like seed and bodynits - and fitting trousers, have boutique-styled-and-coloured hair, and are the male equivalent of airheads) and what the nerds call oysters/clones (there's an official name for this group, only we think oysters is a better name) - hordes of girls who look *exactly* alike - long, bottle-brown/blonde hair cut in a particular style; tight, bare-as-much-flesh-as-possible tops and bottoms, gallons of makeup, one particular language (i won't say which, but it makes everything sounds abusive), and general airheadedness. (oh, and their bfs are always lalas...) i find it highly annoying to be in the same concert hall (as in classical music concert) as the two groups - they're the ones who can't seem to live without their handphones (which will *always* go off halfway through the concert), and the ones who can't seem to understand that you *do not talk!* when someone is playing a solo...
but i'm grousing, and going off-tangent. as i said, you have an interesting article there. i'm not exactlu sure if it's pr material, but it would make an excellent 'sighting' guide
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Sep 26, 2003
It's a different world, isn't it Farlander!
I think one of the difficulties with this sort of entry is that it is likely to date fairly quickly. Perhaps it should be retitled to British, or even English, as I don't know whether these types are found in Scotland or Wales. Or it could be expanded to include 'oysters' and the like.
Then again, there may be people who know this kind of thing.
What do you think, EY?
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Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) Posted Sep 26, 2003
Well, Im currently living in Wales, well, at Bangor uni, and there are plenty of this lot around here. Then again, it could just be all the english students in Wales that im seeing! Those lala's sound fantastic, but here we just call them camp.
Retitling would probably be a good idea though... English teenagers and their subcultures? Subcultures of the British teenage population? Any other offers?
Elbow xx
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Aurora Posted Sep 26, 2003
I'd agree that it needs a title change to show that you're talking about Britain. I can't speak for the north of Scotland but here (Glasgow-ish area) the stereotypes are the same as described in your entry, except that scallies are *always* called Neds.
Other than that, good stuff!
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Number Six Posted Sep 26, 2003
The trouble is it's hard to be regionally accurate - ten years ago, what was referred to as a Goth in Stafford was really what would be called a Jitter or a Grebo elsewhere. In the rest of the country, a Goth would be something quite different.
Number Six, GASman (that's as in Generic Alternative Subculture)
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Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) Posted Oct 1, 2003
Yeah, thats the problem. The subculture can be the same, but the name can be different. It makes it all a bit complicated.
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Oct 1, 2003
Maybe you could write that in the entry somewhere, EY?
Just had a quick look at the threads underneath the entry itself, and it seems to have generated a lot of discussion!
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Peer Review: A617069 - Teenagers and Their Sub-cultures
- 1: Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) (May 23, 2003)
- 2: Z (May 23, 2003)
- 3: Number Six (May 23, 2003)
- 4: Number Six (May 23, 2003)
- 5: Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) (May 28, 2003)
- 6: Chronicargonaut (May 28, 2003)
- 7: Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) (May 30, 2003)
- 8: Z (May 30, 2003)
- 9: Chronicargonaut (May 30, 2003)
- 10: Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) (May 31, 2003)
- 11: Geggs (Aug 1, 2003)
- 12: Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) (Aug 15, 2003)
- 13: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Sep 24, 2003)
- 14: Farlander (Sep 26, 2003)
- 15: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Sep 26, 2003)
- 16: Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) (Sep 26, 2003)
- 17: Aurora (Sep 26, 2003)
- 18: Number Six (Sep 26, 2003)
- 19: Elbow Yangle (and the case for boys in eyeliner) (Oct 1, 2003)
- 20: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Oct 1, 2003)
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