h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

I DID have a cheery humorous journal which reflected my disposition for most of the time. But as the world is going tits up and following my own unsuccessful net research for a script idea, I decided that, yes the world is as bad as I often thought it was.

Religion is really depressing me at the moment. Having been brought up in the Christian faith and forced to attend church as a youngster I have a developed a healthy distaste of its beliefs, the way it works and the whole concept. And I am not constricting that statement to just the Christian faith. Too many people are using religion of whatever variety as a smoke screen for hiding their own desires to control the population and in their eyes to reserve themselves a "piece of paradise". I am sure that the suicide pilots over New York were motivated by two truths. One, their family was inheriting a "bonus" payout given to such "Matrys" by whichever nut wishes to pay up and Two, they would be going to a better place, hailed as a great hero, fighting for the cause etc. Well I hope they are happy wherever they are. In my opinion that is it. They are nowhere other than lying in a billion small ashes at the base of two of the tallest buildings ever known.

I was innocently looking for a site in which I could search the bible for a handy quote to use (probably, in some people's eyes, satanically) in a script of mine. I came a across a lovely little site called "Citizens For The Ten Commandments". Look what I found:

Can atheists lead moral lives?
Atheists are indeed immoral. While one person may chose to act immorally by robbing banks, another may act more immorally by initiating evolution. Atheists think they live morally, since they don’t end up in prisons, but this is simply because atheists have made laws which exclude most criminal acts of atheists from the penalty of incarceration.

Hey, my friend is an atheist
That’s a sign that the devil is trying to get you hooked on his satanic spirit. God tells Christians not to be unequal to yoke with unbelievers and being friends with atheists is a prime way to disobey that command. By all means get away from atheists, -assuming of course, you told them straight they are wrong and shouldn’t be accepted. When you trail the path of atheism, you travel a suicidal path, because the God atheists deny will punish them forever. No matter how nice atheists seem, keep in mind, if you saw satan, you would see no person nicer.

You don't understand atheists
There is no stereotyping of atheists here. All atheists are bad, have a desire to make people negate their obligation to the laws of God, and work toward the moral destruction of a nation. These factors alone are more than enough to incriminate the atheist element. It would be best for you yourself to go and be sure YOU understand atheism. I have spoke with many atheists, I am not afraid of them, I haven't been shot by one. What both you and I ARE harmed from are the dangerous workings of atheism, which is killing babies, freeing criminals and establishing anti-God deception. This is the characteristic of atheism. If atheists were people who ONLY felt God did not exist, they wouldn't also been known as people who seek to remove the Bible from children, and who extract moral instances out of government and from the world community.

But atheists have the right to be atheists
By who? Did man give atheists the right to be atheists? The USA constitution did? What is that? Who are the founding fathers? What makes their decision to give atheism the right of expression right? Nobody worth anything gave atheism the right to existence. All that could give atheists the right to existence is faulty man who is continually in sin. Since atheists don't say satan exist, they must be saying they got their right to existence from some men who lived some 200 years ago. What makes those men so special and universally right? As you can see, there is no exalted nor great entity which provides atheism with a right to existence. But Christians have the Almighty God who gives them the right to be in existence. Atheism has no one that great that can provide them with a right to existence. Since God's decision is the only rightly universal decision, atheism stands by with no truly legal certificate of permission nor a right to subsistence. The right the American constitution gives it is obsolete and holds no right in God's sight. Remember, we will have to render account unto God, not the American constitution on judgment day, - thank God!

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Normally I would laugh this kind of stuff off and say, "Hey they're entitled to their opinion. But this is the reason I condemn religion. I AM AN ATHEIST!!! Am I a Satan lover? Well, if it means that I live and let live, do not kill innocents, live my life secure in the knowledge that there will always be someone prettier, uglier, happier, sadder, more intelligent, thicker, wiser, dumber, thinner, taller, blacker than I; well, call me a SATANIST!!!

I am depressed with the world right now. I love my friends and family, but the fact that people throw themselves into this blind belief and hatred fills me with fear, anger and loathing. I am not

For strange people out there, try the "dial-the-truth ministeries" (use that string in google, the correct page has got av1611 in its name somewhere). They for example tell you that
"Modern electronic-rock music, inaugurated in the early 1960s, is, and always has been, a joint enterprise of British military intelligence and Satanic cults. On the one side, the Satanists control the major rock groups through drugs, sex, threats of violence, and even murder. On the otherside, publicity, tours, and recordings are financed by record companies connected to British military intelligence circles. Both sides are intimately entwined with the biggest business in the world, the international drug trade."


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dont give up on all of us, I agree with you there are terrible things going on and terrible people but we can all make a diffrence I believe even if its just being nice to one person every day. take care. bye.

Thanks for the response folks. I think I was a little bit worse for wear last night when I wrote that. Can't keep an optimist down...

Simon

It seems insane to me that someone in this day and age would still believe something like that, However on the other hand the source may not have been entirely trustworthy, there is always the possiblity someone out there is trying to incite religious hatred.

I don't understand people who choose a religion that tells them their friends and collegues are going to hell. How could you be in heaven when your children/friends e.t.c are burning in hell. Maybe i'm missing the point.

How I look at, if religon or religious people were true to their beliefs there would not be so many disputes as no religons that I know preach killing or hatred but still it happens in the name of religon so they cannot be true religons or true religious people. Im atheist too but beleive in right and wrong, good and bad.

Good point friend

There are religions that promote war, what about the jihad - religious war of muslims? - i'm not too hot on my religious studies
they say that they need to actively bring there religion to others don't they?? SOmething along those lines, i'll look it up later and tell you

Crusade?

looks like I got it wrong, but there again if you go back to fundamental teaching of almost all religons, love,peace and compassion are usually featurerd, but feudal wars over take fudamental princables. am I being niave?.

No, that's what i thought of religion too, until the other day when i stumbled across that article about the jihad. I don't know, i've never been too up on religion as a whole. They seem to advertise peace and forgiveness but at the same time the whole of history shows us that people really have failed to grasp that whole concept.

But is it better to be naive and expect the best in people than to be resentful and see the worst? I think i would rather be naive.

Naive definitely

I remember when I was studying, I came up with a possible documentary idea, seems harmless fun in light of the current situation, but I was going to base a short film around it. I was going to sit with a concealed camera outside of a church on a sunday, pretend to be homeless and see how many "Sunday Christians" would actually stop to help. In retrospect, perhaps that was the wrong time to do something like that as I am sure most of the church goers would have stopped as it was fresh in their minds and they wouldn't want to be embarassed in front of their peers. But the point I was trying to make was that half these people have no idea what the religion is supposed to mean.

My mother is a Christian and although she doesn't go to church, she is the most "Christian" person I have met (and I know this may seem biased).

I once went to a Christian Mission open day on a ship which toured third world countries and offered aid and support. The concept was great, but to sign up you had to be Christian and believe in the Almighty. That put me off signing up (a thought which sprang to mind at the time). Why can't people offer others aid without being a member of a religion? Is it some kind of "branding" thing?

Am I being stupid here?

Simon

Seems to me that all of my current conversations on H2G2 at the present seem to be very religion biased. I would like to say that I am not some lunatic obsessed with anti religion. I am totally one hundred percent in favour of the live an let live stance. It is the forced forms of religion for which I have a distaste. I have not set out to offend or discriminate against anyone of a religious disposition. In the whole, religion is a good thing. Let's face it, at the end of the day, it's not religion that is to blame, it's human nature. There will always be "tribes" and people who group together assuming that they are the "chosen" few. History has taught us that. People will always want to control other people, and religion is just a convenient way of doing so. My problem is when it is force fed to the rest of us. The way it is used as an excuse for violence and murder. I am sure that what I consider as right and wrong has been imparted into me by some form of religious teaching. I am fortunate no one out there has challenged me to a Theological debate on the subject as I am sure I would have failed and come across as a hypocrite, which I DO have a healthy distaste for. Debate is healthy but if my views were forced upon all, I would be just as much to blame as the Knights during the Crusade or the inquistion.

I must admit that, if during the Roman occupation of Britain, if I was asked to worship the Roman Gods or suffer a painful death I am sure I would be on my knees in front of a Golden Bull with the rest of them...........

(I am sure that my Historical knowledge is a bit wonky. Sorry.)

All good points, I geuss I'd like to believe that some at least beleivers are guenuine,but as you say, we have all seen folk who fail to do what they preach. in days of old we might have needed moral guiedeness,but this was used by the then educated few,"rich and powerful". for their own gains, we now have our own morals inderpendant of religon, those of us capable, through nature or nurture. I really thought songs like "IMAGINE" would change the thinking of the world. but no maybe there is some all powerful evil in charge.

Unfortunately there is an all-powerful evil:- it's called Stupidity.

We forget that there are millions of people in the "developed" Western nations who can't read, write, or construct a reasoned argument and who get their information on the world from the guy who reads "The Sun" to them.

These people are led by those who can catch their attention. Why else is Rupert Murdoch so powerful & influential, if it's not because of his influence on his viewers / readers?

It is these people who need to be sorted out. If there were fewer people who could be manipulated, then the manipulators would need to seek other methods of persuasion. Just think, no more red-top daily rags of misinformation and distraction, no more slimy spin doctors, no more stupid lies and short termism.

"...You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one..." If only people could read these lyrics.

"I hope one day you'll join us, and the world can live as one"....oh if only! yes its a dream 'ant it but we can only hope one day it may come true.