A Conversation for The Allure of Consumerism
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Ormondroyd Posted Jul 23, 2001
Zaphod - John Peel lives in Stowmarket in Suffolk, but he does have a connection with Shipley in that his wife Shiela originally comes from the town. Peelie has been known to pay a visit, so maybe there's still a family connection there.
And yes, I'm glad to say that the rioting in Bradford seems to have stopped since the last reported disturbances a week ago. However, there are still a LOT of police officers, cars and vans camped out around the main police station in the city centre, way more than usual. They're obviously prepared for more trouble.
DoctorGonzo, I've tried a h2g2 search on "That's My Bush!", but without success. Where can I find the thread?
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DoctorGonzo Posted Jul 25, 2001
Back to the thread....
Have a look for John Fiske's 'Reading the Popular'. As far as I can recall, it has a good chapter on shopping. If your local library doesn't have it, then there's a good chance that an academic library might. Of course, you could buy it, as it's an impressively academic book to leave 'lying around'
Beware though, it can be tough going - he's not the easiest of reads...
DG
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DoctorGonzo Posted Jul 25, 2001
Zaphod,
If you drop me an email (see my space here), I'll reply with a couple of links I have. I can't post them here
DG
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Zaphod II Posted Jul 29, 2001
DG - Your links to the above topic were received with thanks. A fellow student, eh? All the best, Zaphod
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DoctorGonzo Posted Jul 29, 2001
Not *quite* a student. I have to do a Sociology resit in August , and a research project in February , then I can go back to uni next year
It'll be a long haul, but worth it. It means I can go into work with a smile on my face, because I know no matter how sh***y it is, it's for a limited time...
DG
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Sea Change Posted Jul 30, 2001
I survived college without succumbing to Political Correctness.
To me, this article contains hardly anything alluring about consumerism. The paragraphs seem to start out with a positive what I thought was the topic sentence. This is an odd style, because it makes it read like there are many hidden attacks. Perhaps you could run this by the Writer's Workshop.
There is a lot of unsubstatiated comment. This would be OK if it were entertaining in the H2G2 style. The way it reads to me now is rather ugly; not Vogon-bad, but still quite literal. If I hadn't read your intended purpose at the beginning, I would have taken it for socialist agitprop.
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Sep 26, 2001
This is a great opinion piece; unfortunately, opinion pieces are not Edited Guide material. I recommend that we move it to the Sin Bin... but it'd be a good article for the Post!
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Zaphod II Posted Sep 26, 2001
I did posy it for comments but as you see it has attracted few comments. Is it retrievable from the sin bin?
Zaphod
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Sep 27, 2001
It's still in Peer Review - hasn't gone anywhere, so don't worry. Have you tried contacting the Post to see if they'd like to publish an opinion piece? The Post is a better venue for this article than the Edited Guide - even though it's well-written, the Edited Guide strives to be as objective as possible, and this expounds on one opinion that others might disagree with.
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DoctorGonzo Posted Sep 27, 2001
I still think that this could be a valid Edited Entry, with some cultural and sociological theory, and perhaps a couple of pro-consumerism arguments...
...not that I could provide them
A593921 - The Allure of Consumerism
Zaphod II Posted Sep 28, 2001
I have had invaluable support and advice from DocterGonzo, Purplejenny and Ormondroyd on this entry, and am still (when I can find time) pursuing their optimism in it becoming a guide entry - which is something aimed for. For last month or so it has languished in the writer's workshop, hoping that it would receive some attention there. But alas. Cultural anxiety and No Logo websites have been very helpful in exploring and sharpening the cultural/social contexts and critique of consumerism, as well as putting forth more constructive arguments in its favour. I've still got a long way to go with this one and, time permitting, will incorporate new findings and re-shape entry ASAP.
Thanks for giving it re-newed attention.
Zaphod
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Ormondroyd Posted Sep 28, 2001
Zaphod, I wish you all the best in remodelling the Entry and hopefully making it acceptable for the Edited Guide. If you haven't done so already, it is well worth having a really good look at the Writing Guidelines - http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/Writing-Guidelines - to see exactly what the limits are. Section 9, which deals with the need for impartiality, is probably the most relevant here.
Funny, really - I agree with much of what this Entry has to say, but I've just given the same advice to the author of an opinion piece I totally DISagree with! Perhaps that proves that the Writing Guidelines are impartial and effective!
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Mikey the Humming Mouse - A3938628 Learn More About the Edited Guide! Posted Nov 4, 2001
Hey there, Zaphod! Are the revisions and Peer Review still something you're wanting to pursue with this entry? If so, how's it going?
Mikey
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Zaphod II Posted Nov 6, 2001
Hi Mickey. Just popped in to check the latest. Yes, I do want to amend this entry and place on peer review, only trouble is (Gee Whizz) I'm busy writing assignments for this course I'm on and it's impossible to attend to it. It could be a few weeks, in fact, even longer.
In the meantime, I guess it'll have to tread water or something.
Regards
Zaphod
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Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Posted Dec 21, 2001
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A654969 seems to be an edited version of this one ...
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Mikey the Humming Mouse - A3938628 Learn More About the Edited Guide! Posted Dec 21, 2001
And a pretty recent one at that.... Bossel, you want to do the honors and request that the thread be moved?
mikey
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