A Conversation for Talking Point: The Ethics of Being Frozen
A warning from the future
Hoovooloo Started conversation Jun 30, 2001
Anyone considering having themselves or a loved one frozen should read Larry Niven's short story "Rammer", which is also available as the first section of his novel "A World Out of Time". In it, a man who had himself frozen in the seventies (!) is revived - but not in the way he anticipated. I don't want to say too much more about this, but suffice to say that anyone frozen has NO control over the society they wake up in, or their place in it.
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Crystal Butterfly Posted Jul 1, 2001
Is this the one where he was awoken, but they needed his heart for another (very rich) patient? 
I remember watching that on the Outer Limits.
Scared me enough to know I would never want to be frozen. 
cb
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Jul 3, 2001
No he is revived, but his body had been destroyed by cancer... they had figured out how to wipe a persons brain (from that time) and they would somehow inject his mind into a new body... It is a very good story... I reccomend reading the whole "World Out Of Time" Novel, as it shows what long life does when you live for a few million years... here and there...
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 3, 2001
well, i'll have a look for it! at the moment i'm spending 8 hours a day with a large amount of books!
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Jul 3, 2001
Well that is a good thing...
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 3, 2001
yes, but it is REALLY not mice on a day like this! it was 30C upstairs! (86F)
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 3, 2001
my spelling is apalling, you can tell i've had a long day! i meant nice, not mice! (which could actualy give it a whole new meaning! hmmmmmmmmm, i'll think about this one)
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 3, 2001
my spelling is apalling, you can tell i've had a long day! i meant nice, not mice! (which could actualy give it a whole new meaning! hmmmmmmmmm, i'll think about this one)
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 3, 2001
my spelling is apalling, you can tell i've had a long day! i meant nice, not mice! (which could actualy give it a whole new meaning! hmmmmmmmmm, i'll think about this one)
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 3, 2001
i don't beleive this! now my computer has b******d up and posted my last message thrice! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhggggggg this is all i need!
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Jul 3, 2001
Ahh it is hot also here! I dont know exactly hot how... What city from you? I think that in the future pigions will become masters our.
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 3, 2001
i'm in England, are you? i'm not sure about Pigeons being our masters though, those geat beings probably have better things to do than master our destructive and quite frankly weird race!
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Jul 3, 2001
I am in the United States Navy, the most powerful and advanced Navy in the world... I am in San Diego Ca... Let me remind you though
"A great navy is not a provication to war, it is the surest guarentee of peace."
-T.R.
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 10, 2001
is it? hmmmmmmm, anyway! my Dad used to be in the Navy!
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Jul 10, 2001
Which one? not the swiss navy perchance?
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 10, 2001
nope!, British! seeing as we live in England! do you come from Switzerland?
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Jul 10, 2001
Well my decendance is English, Swiss, German, and Scottish. The four names... Colin, Oppliger, Hohnstein, and Campbell... those togeather are my main blood line. The Swiss Navy is just a little family joke... seeing as my ancestors had to travel through France to get to the ocean to sail here. Switzerland is a landlocked nation... no place to put it's Navy!
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Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) Posted Jul 10, 2001
sorry! i'm soooooo slow tonight! duh! 
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Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor Posted Jul 10, 2001
Tonight... that's right! it is only 1:19 here in CA
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- 1: Hoovooloo (Jun 30, 2001)
- 2: Crystal Butterfly (Jul 1, 2001)
- 3: Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) (Jul 2, 2001)
- 4: Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor (Jul 3, 2001)
- 5: Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) (Jul 3, 2001)
- 6: Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor (Jul 3, 2001)
- 7: Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) (Jul 3, 2001)
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- 12: Pyrex Muse of Unbreakable Space-age Wonder Glass, Student of Life, Keeper of the Seven Keys of Ventuslor (Jul 3, 2001)
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- 15: Cardinal Noah (is now back!!!) (Jul 10, 2001)
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