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Entry: The Marx Brothers - A875081
Author: Oberon2001 (ACE) - U204088

"Last night I shot a bear in my pajamas, what he was doing in my pajamas I'll never know."

He was probably wondering how he could have got in there with the elephant???????

(As the quote from Captain Spaulding is about elephants, not bears.... )

Sorry!
But bear sounds better, doesn't it?
Oberon2001

Er.....

no!

Sacrilege!!!!!

Anyway - good to see the entry in here . One quick change - how about referencing Groucho's entry in the name section (where you've linked to IMDB for a couple of the others) and take the Groucho link from the bottom, to make it a bit more consistent?

Also, if you feel like it, my Flywheel, Shyster and Flywheel entry is finished now apart from lacking a couple of quotes, so I was wondering if you'd been inclined to link to it...???? I should be sticking it in PR tomorrow (once quotes have been added, and I can remember the name of the carriage on the train that sells food!!).

Yes, alright I'll link to your entry, but it'll be removed if this is picked.
The idea of putting the Groucho link at the bottom is so that if anyone wants to create an entry for another Marx Bros, the link to that can be tagged on at the bottom as well.
Oberon2001

Flywheel A897320 now in PR too.

Let's see if we can fill it with Marx Brothers entries!!!

I count three so far, I'll put my Groucho entry in sometime today, that'll be four... Anyone got a Marx Bros entry they'd like to put in PR?
Oberon2001

Great entry

Can't see any factual errors couple of typos - "it was the first Marx Bros film IN 5 years" not on

and Pyjamas not pajamas.

Fixed.
Oberon2001

I went and posted this in the old thread before I saw it had moved; so here it is again:

There's lots of confusion about the family facts and figures, but certainly Chico and Harpo were older than Groucho.

Simon Louvish (Monkey Business: the lives and legends of the Marx Brothers, Faber 1999) has done a lot of archival research and he gives the following:

Simon (Marrix by family tradition) born 1860; married Miene Schönberg 18 Jan 1885; named as Simon Marx in 1890 (on Groucho's birth registration) and as Samuel Marks in the census of June 1900, thereafter as Samuel Marx.

Manfred born 1886, died 7 months later, probably a victim of 'flu, since the death cert mentions entero-colitis and asthenia.

Leo, later Leonard, born March 1887

Adolph, later Arthur, born 23 November 1888

Julius Henry born 2 Oct 1890

Milton born 23 Oct 1892

Herbert born 25 Feb 1901

The 1900 census also lists Pauline (known as Polly or Sally) who was born in 1885, and lived with the family, but seems to have been a cousin (daughter of Hannah either inside or outside her first marriage to Max Lefevre in 1881, who was presumed dead in the 1890 Manhattan City Directory entry for Hannah)

The family moved to Chicago according to Louvish in "the autumn of 1909"

Good luck with sorting all of this out! The more detail you get the harder it is for the reader. Do we really need to know the suppositions about the grouch bag?

You also have a few typos at the start - it should be "The Brothers' father" (and mother); space needed after "France)" in line 3 or so; The Three Nightingales need no apostrophe (and should it be they "made their debut performance *as* Ned Weyburn's etc."?)

~R

[Recumbentman continues...] Furthermore, Harry and Al Shean's name would surely have been pronounced "Shane", to judge by the song "Bei Mir Bist Du Shane" (=Schön). Shane would be short for Schönberg in New York German.

Simon Louvish has uncovered a load of detail including a 1925 film "Too Many Kisses" in which Harpo played "Village Peter Pan"... Worth a look, he gives a complete chronology and family tree at the end. E.g. Manfred born January 1886, died 17 July 1886; Leo born (22?) March 1887.

~R

For someone who wrote "The more detail you get the harder it is for the reader", you do include a lot of info!
I've included quite a bit of it though, so
Oberon2001

Details, details... still a Guide should be as reliable as the current research allows. Louvish is definite about the marriage date of Simon and Miene: 18 Jan 1885. He says they later revised their marriage date to 1864 "to accommodate Pauline's birth in January 1885, as they were passing her off as their own"

~R

Hmm, interesting.
I've added it to the entry.
Oberon2001

... I'll be honest, I'm just bumping this up to the top of PR, seeing if anyone has got anymore to say on it.
Oberon2001

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Well done folks, it's going in!

Hip-Hip Hooray!
Woo-hoo!
Break open a barrel of everyone!
Oberon2001

Someone mention ????

Flywheel's just gone in too - that's all 4 Marx Brothers on their way...!!!

Brilliant!
The Groucho Marx entry has now been pending for about a week now, so will probably go in soon!
Oberon2001