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GOD Started conversation Mar 30, 2000
Honestly, the mere fact I contribute my time & energy to this website, answering peoples misgivings isn't enough proof for some people.
I suppose you'll trot out that old faithful 'science' in your defense of Atheism
Sheesh...Sometimes I don't know why I bothered...
At least let people have access to the Church of the Electric Cross, to get a 'balanced' opinion...
- Don't follow false prophets...
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Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Mar 30, 2000
We could hardly stop people from accessing the Church of the Electric Slide (or was that a dance?). I just chose to zip on over there and see what you were up to, and then offered my confession for... well... balance. Can't have all that ingratiating stuff all the time, now can you?
If you'll look around here, you'll find the article that I use to prove you're a figment of the imagination, and it involves very little science. It mostly relies on history and on interpretation of your first two novels.
GargleBlaster, follower of NO prophets
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GOD Posted Mar 31, 2000
* Glides in, looking dignified & aloof. Draws out a notebook. Crosses Gargleblaster from the 'Wings Club'...
- Saviour of Souls (...except Gargleblaster).
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jbliqemp... Posted Mar 31, 2000
God's job was never really to save souls. Theoretically, God's only job was to make souls (and things), call them good, and smite them when those souls pissed him off. The 'saving' of souls typically fell to humans, who made God up in the first place. Without humans, there would be no God, not even a fictitious one.
Pseudo-Contrary boy
In the execution of his chair
-jb
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Engels42 (Thingite Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffyness) Posted Mar 31, 2000
Hey, what's with this God saving souls crap anyway, I always thought that you should save your own soul, rather than have an almighty diety, and if this diety were allmight, wouldn't give a damn about how a few billions of Carbon based life forms ran their lives.
(Hey, put me on the list) I'm in the belief that the universe was created by physical laws, not religious ones.
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Engels42 (Thingite Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffyness) Posted Apr 1, 2000
OH, I almost forgot about the second half of my chair, so....
'The first time the Deity came down to earth, he brought life and death; when he came the second time, he brought hell.
Life was not a valuable gift, but death was. Life was a fever-dream made up of joys embittered by sorrows, pleasure poisoned by pain; a dream that was a nightmare-confusion of spasmodic and fleeting delights, ecstasies, exultations, happinesses, interspersed with long-drawn miseries, grief, perils, horrors, disapointments, defeats, humiliations, and despairs--the heaviest curse devisable by divine ingenuity; but death was sweet, death was gentle, death was kind; death healed the bruised spirit and the broken heart, and gave them rest and forgetfulness; death was man's best friend; when man could endure life no longer, death came and set him free.
In time, the Deity perceived that death was a mistake; a mistake, in that it was insufficient; insufficient, for the reason that while it was an admirable agent for the inflicting of misery upon the survivor, it allowed the dead person himself to escape from all further persecution in the blessed refuge of the grave. This was not satisfactory. A way must be contrived to pursue the dead beyond the tomb.
The Deity pondered this matter during four thousand years unsuccessfully, but as soon as he came down to earth and became a Christian his mind cleared and he knew what to do. He invented hell, and proclaimed it.
Now here is a curious thing. It is believed by everybody that while he was in heaven he was stern, hard, resentful, jealous, and cruel; but with that when he came down to earth and assumed the name Jesus Christ, he became the opposite of what he was before: that is to say, he became sweet, and gentle, merciful, forgiving, and all harshness disappeared from hes nature and a deep and yearning love for his poor human children took its place. Whereas it was as Jesus Christ that he devised hell and proclaimed it!
Which is to say, that as the meek and gentle Savior he was a thousand billion times crueler than ever he was in the Old Testament--oh, incomparably more atrocious than ever he was when he was at his very worst in these old days!
Meek and Gentle? By and by we will examine this popular sarcasm by the light of the hell which he invented' Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain)
Sorry for that ranting quote, but it needed to be said somehow, so allmighty, what next? WHAT NEXT?!?!?!
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GOD Posted Apr 10, 2000
* My Master tries ever so hard to keep from gaffuwing out loud *
Honestly, that's why I don't normally associate with Atheists - No sense of humour...
Get some good Catholic guilt, and laugh yourself silly...
Even when I make the supreme sacrifice of giving you positive confirmation of my existence, you fall back on the usual diatribes and 'science'...Honestly, Socrates was having a laugh.
Don't worry, when I see you 'in person' , I won't hold it against you.
- Saving Humanity from itself ?
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11_3082 Tysbe Perich_(ACE)_ Posted Apr 10, 2000
Someone needs to explain one thing to me. How are you positive there is a God. So many different religions say that there are more than one, or that it is a completely different one from which that christianity teaches. And here's the kicker....they all say that they, and only they are right. How can thousands of religions all be right. Now of course any good christain would say. "No, I'm right and that's all there is, becasue Jesus said so." Well that's not a good defense, that's just being bull headed. Besides Jesus isn't a very good defense either. If we're disproving God here, than logically, his son wouldn't exist either. Right? When one of you dies, do tell me what is really going on, huh?
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Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Apr 10, 2000
You're preaching to the choir here, dude. This is where all the non-xtians hang out. Only one you could possibly convert is Gawd-almitey over there, and I don't think he/she/it is convinced of its own existence.
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Zozzie Dolittle Posted Apr 10, 2000
Why is it that everyone, in their effort to disprove God, is managing to make life sound so miserable? While its true that life canbe hard, and painful and so on (for a full list of afflictions please refer to Mark Twains above quote) It can also be pleasurable (and, yes, I know that was in the quote too - sort of)! And fun. And in any case fervently beliving in the lack of God is almost as good as beliving he exists! The best thing to do would be to ignore him, to not care whether he exist or not, and eventually he will disappear!
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Zozzie Dolittle Posted Apr 10, 2000
Why is it thateveryone in their effort to disprove God is managing to make life be sound so miserable? While it's true that life can be hard and painful (please refer to above Mark Twain quote for full list of afflictions) it can also be pleasurable (and, yes, I know that was also in the quote - sort of)! And fun. Any way, fervently disbelieving in God is almost as good as believing in him. It still gives him substance. The best thing to do would to ignore him, not care if he exists or not, and then he will slowly dissapear, except as possible remnants of a myth. Like the Greek gods.
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Daniel the 49290th Posted Apr 11, 2000
I assume this isn't the time or the place to get into the discussion of whether 'souls' really exist or not?
"Man made God in his own image" -Somebody profound, no doubt.
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GOD Posted Apr 11, 2000
Huzzah Zozzie.
Lo & Behold, an Atheist with a sense of humour...!!!
Miracles do happen
Have this 'Access All Areas' pass to Heaven, and pop in for afternoon tea when your in the vicinity...
- Like a salmon swimming up stream, whilst humanity goes with the tide...
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The Mummy, administrator of the SETI@home Project (A193231) and The Reluctant Dead on the FFFF (A254314) Posted Apr 19, 2000
It takes little effort for me to disprove god, Zozzie. But no way will I make life sound miserable. There's even more to enjoy, if you're free from that burden of Xtianity.
GB: can I take the seat of "The Reluctant Dead" ? It would mean much to me to show that even in death I will refuse to let go.
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Engels42 (Thingite Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffyness) Posted Apr 19, 2000
Hello mummy!
If you want to join the foundation, all you have to really do is come over and introduce yourself to us on the buisines forum.(That is if you haven't already, I haven't checked there yet.) It takes a little while to load, but I'm sure you'll reach the end of it.
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The Mummy, administrator of the SETI@home Project (A193231) and The Reluctant Dead on the FFFF (A254314) Posted Apr 19, 2000
Yeah, I found out later that there was a thread specifically for introducing. The only thing that confused me, is the fact that that thread is also filled with all kinds of discussion. At least here I could combine my introduction with a useful reply to one of the messages
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