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Post 1

egon

In all the media coverage of Chelsea's week, I've seen plenty of media coverage referring to Rosenborg BK as minnows, a small team, or even unknowns.

This ignorance is amazing- "little-known team" Rosenborg haveb been in the knockout rounds of the Champions League three times in 12 years, the group stage most seasons, and have won the Norweigan league in 14 of the alst 15 eyars. may as well talk about the tiny, insignificant, unknown club of Glasgow Celtic. If British football journalists haven't heard of them, this says more about the state of British football journalism than it does about the team.


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Post 2

Secretly Not Here Any More

Excuse me Egon, but you're showing a staggering lack of football knowledge. There are only four professional football teams in existence;

Manchester United, who are the most powerful team in creation.
Arsenal, who are the most majestic and beautiful football team in creation.
Chelsea, who are the most efficient football team in creation.
Liverpool, who are the most sinned against football team in creation.

These clubs have the greatest stadia, players, fans and managers and are only besmirched by d*ckheads wearing black who try and stifle their inevitable victories, and pub teams such as Totteringham Hotspurs, Evertown and New Castle.

So spoketh Sky and Suh Tan Tah, and it was true, and all did rejoice.


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Post 3

GreyDesk

No, Rosenborg really *are* a small team inspite of their domestic and European successes. I've done a bit of digging to get information on club revenue, and I've got what I think is a fairly inclusive list for 2005/06 (in US$) and Rosenborg are at a fraction of that Scottish minnow, Celtic. So all in all: well done you plucky Norwegians in derailing the Special One smiley - biggrinsmiley - bubbly

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Post 4

riotact : like a phoenix from the ashes

here's a way of looking at rosenborg that makes you wonder if platini's suggestions for the CL (mind you i like his ideas in general) would be good for the minnow leagues: RFK's budget may seem puny by EPL standards, but it towers over that of the other clubs in norway, and the lion's share of it comes from... their continual presence in the CL.

even on the relatively higher level of france, you can argue that CL money has tilted the playing field: OL has the highest budget in L1, but if you take away the money earned on the playing field (including peace cup, domestic cup showings, and other performance related bonuses, but largely CL money) both OM and PSG would have higher budgets.


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Post 5

Secretly Not Here Any More

"even on the relatively higher level of france, you can argue that CL money has tilted the playing field"

Up until the foreign billionaire invasion, you could level the same accusations at the Prem.


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Post 6

McKay The Disorganised

It always was that way - I remember a meeting at Coventry where the director held up a Coventry shirt - we sell 35,000 of these he said, and that's a valuable income to the club. He held up a Man Utd shirt and said they sell 650,000 of these - and that's why we're selling Gary Gillespie to Liverpool.

smiley - cider

*NB figures may not be entirely accurate.


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